Another guns drawn raid of the home of a pro life activist

[Rodeo]

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@biggestal99

@Rodeo

The FBI’s raid of Houck’s home was designed to send a warning to pro-life activists engaging in activities protected by the First Amendment.”.
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thats an opinion.

the trial shall determine guilt or innocence.

Allan

The “trial” will cost him everything he owns. Another humbling.

Imho a message is being sent loud and clear…

Don’t you dare disagree with the Democrats …

Maybe this is what ole’ Joey from Scranton meant with that “nobody ■■■■■ with a Biden” comment.

Anyway I ve made my points…have a lovely day.

[zantax]

@PAmoderate37

@Oldandtired

Seems you only care if the LEO’s are arresting someone who might vote leftist or that the leftist can use to drum up hate and more power.
Might help me believe you really care about the killing of an unarmed person if you cared about all unarmed people being treated poorly by LEO’s.

You should read more of my posts on the issue. I think way too many cops are bullies and abuse their power. These abortion protesters should have never been arrested the way they were. But, most of the folks complaining about overwhelming force, had no problem with the overwhelming force that got Breana Taylor killed.

Can’t recall anyone here supporting the Taylor shoot on the right.

[WuWei]

There were people who rationalized it.

[Sknyluv]

@Rodeo

“ The FBI’s raid of Houck’s home was designed to send a warning to pro-life activists engaging in activities protected by the First Amendment.”

Thanks for the response. I guess I see the Heritage Foundation’s point, but I’d argue that the fact that Houck was arrested at all is more a signal to pro-life activists than the way he was arrested. Houck was involved in an altercation outside of an abortion clinic, Vaughn was part of a group that blocked access to a medical facility. The DOJ seems to be making a point and is looking into past cases involving altercations around abortion providers. THAT is more of a sign, IMO, than the way these men were arrested. You don’t get the arrest without the DOJ prioritizing these cases.

[Sknyluv]

@Rodeo

Townhall has a very extensive story and the horrible group of domestic terrorists plucked from our streets last week. “ Here’s who is among the grandparents and Christian street preachers facing federal charges: several missionaries, a survivor of the communist concentration camps, a mother of 10 adopted children, and a former stage 4 cancer patient.” The oldest of the bunch is an 87 year old named Eva Edl…” Edl is a survivor of communism who escaped from Yugoslavia’s concentration camps in the wake of World War II. In “one of the darkest hellholes of a communist death camp, Eva found Jesus,” the 87-year-old’s biography says.”

Thank God Merrick Garland and Joe Biden are rescuing America from these people!

Their prior arrest history and personal stories can become factors in the sentencing portion of the trial, if it gets that far.

Also, don’t take pictures of yourself doing the crime.

[Sknyluv]

@Rodeo

Don’t you dare disagree with the Democrats …

… or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.

[biggestal99]

@Sknyluv

… or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.

dont do the crime, if you cant do the time.

civil disobedience has a price.

every protestor who violates federal law knows the deal.

arrest is possible.

Allan

[Rodeo]

@Sknyluv

Thanks for the response. I guess I see the Heritage Foundation’s point, but I’d argue that the fact that Houck was arrested at all is more a signal to pro-life activists than the way he was arrested. Houck was involved in an altercation outside of an abortion clinic, Vaughn was part of a group that blocked access to a medical facility.

It’s funny how words can be twisted.

I guess you can call shoving a guy who’s harassing your son an altercation…in reality the alleged “altercation” was so inconsequential that no local charges were filed and the gentleman he pushed lost (didn’t even show up ) his civil suit. He was out on the sidewalk praying anyone who wanted to get to that clinic got in…no problem.

You guys are all excited about “the Face Act”…none of us had ever heard of the Face Act three months ago.

If local authorities had no interest in charges a year and a half ago why should we see the feds sudden response after the Dobbs decision and before an election as anything other than government intimidation of private citizens.

Enforcing the law…absolutely…

Government using law enforcement as a the National thought police …hell no.

Sorry but I think that’s what these needless shows of force are all about.

It doesn’t take a massive showing of Kevlar wearing automatic weapon toting federal agents to take I e man into custody who has no criminal history and no history of ever having a run in with the law.

[Rodeo]

@biggestal99

dont do the crime, if you cant do the time.

civil disobedience has a price.

every protestor who violates federal law knows the deal.

arrest is possible.

Allan

“ … or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.”

You lefties who were ready to crucify the police not long ago not being all pro law enforcement…

PUUULLLEASE give us all a break.

[biggestal99]

@Rodeo

“ … or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.”

You lefties who were ready to crucify the police not long ago not being all pro law enforcement…

PUUULLLEASE give us all a break

i have been on the side of protesting all my life, i however am a law abiding protestor, i do not wish to be arrested or convicted of any crime. civil disobedience has never been my thing.

see the difference.

Allan

[JayJay]

@biggestal99

@Rodeo

“ … or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.”

You lefties who were ready to crucify the police not long ago not being all pro law enforcement…

PUUULLLEASE give us all a break

i have been on the side of protesting all my life, i however am a law abiding protestor, i do not wish to be arrested or convicted of any crime. civil disobiebcee

Actually civil disobedience by default means doing something that will lead one to be arrested for a crime.

[JayJay]

@Rodeo

@biggestal99

dont do the crime, if you cant do the time.

civil disobedience has a price.

every protestor who violates federal law knows the deal.

arrest is possible.

Allan

“ … or don’t do crimes. The 11 individuals who were arrested appeared to know exactly what they were doing and what the outcome might be.”

You lefties who were ready to crucify the police not long ago not being all pro law enforcement…

PUUULLLEASE give us all a break.

I understand nuance is lost on some, but people weren’t ready to crucify the police.

They just wanted them to stop shooting people.

[Rodeo]

@biggestal99

i have been on the side of protesting all my life, i however am a law abiding protestor, i do not wish to be arrested or convicted of any crime. civil disobedience has never been my thing.

see the difference.

Allan

You and I had more than our share of exchanges in the summer of 2020…

Sorry …

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Sknyluv

In this case, it looks like protestors blocked the entrance to a medical practice from inside the medical building. There are links to Facebook live videos posted in this thread that show what happened.

exactly. violated the FACE act.

locals gave a slap on the wrist.

it was up to the feds to enforce the law.

20-30 officers … guns drawn.

Get real Alan.

[Samm]

@WuWei

There were people who rationalized it.

Rationalized the shooting, not the raid.

[WuWei]

Both.

[Rodeo]

@Samm

20-30 officers … guns drawn.

Get real Alan.

It’s ridiculous…

Don’t tell me the cops were evil and now rationalize that level of needless excessive force.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

20-30 officers … guns drawn.

Get real Alan.

oh i am real, bet protesters at abortion clinics will perhaps think twice before breaking federal law.

i never thought i would see the day were republicans were mollycoddling criminals.

all arrested and indicted will have their day in court

where once again they will gin up pro lifer sediment about being poor victims abused by the feds.

Allan

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

20-30 officers … guns drawn.

Get real Alan.

oh i am real, bet protesters at abortion clinics will perhaps think twice before breaking federal law.

i never thought i would see the day were republicans were mollycoddling criminals.

all arrested and indicted will have their day in court

where once again they will gin up pro lifer sediment about being poor victims abused by the feds.

20-30 officers … guns drawn … to take down an abortion clinic protester … while playing with his children.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@JayJay

@Rodeo

So why haven’t the multiple attacks on abortion counseling centers seen any response from those sane law enforcement agencies?

Hasn’t Jane’s Revenge been caught up in police enforcement issues involving abortion providers?

We have a right to free speech and peaceful protest in America…you know that right?

You’ve already been asked why there should be arrests already for Jane’s Revenge attacks when it took over a year for the government to make these arrests about which they knew a lot more.

And protests are fine…blocking access to clinics is not.

You might not like the law, but it’s the law.

And if you’re going to protest by blocking clinics…be prepared to face the music for it.

Until the law gets changed.

Exactly why the ■■■■ does the FBI need to get involved in abortion? Is this the case for ALL businesses? If not, why the special carve out for abortion? Why can’t local law enforcement deal with this?