Another Authoritarian move- Unmarked cars, camp, no ID, grabbing protestors

WuWei · 2020-07-18T03:15:21.196Z

TommyLucchese:

pensieve_seeker:

What if he was an asset extraction?

You’ve been watching too many of whatever movies are ripping off the Jason Bourne movies these days.

Mike Hammer?

TommyLucchese · 2020-07-18T03:19:30.454Z

WuWei:

Mike Hammer?

The Continental Op.

Olmehk · 2020-07-18T03:27:08.017Z

We are witnessing the Rise Of The Gestapo in the USA. BLM and Antifa exist SOLELY to compel the government to adopt more authoritarian practices. And America fell for it!

CanadianJudo · 2020-07-18T03:35:21.158Z

Cant wait for Biden secert police to patrol and arrest MAGA supporters

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T03:35:28.015Z

conan:

Funny that… the thug wannabe knew he did something wrong with way he was backing up with his hands in the air.

“Just do what the cops tell you” is the constant refrain

But here we now have “He went too willingly!”

WuWei · 2020-07-18T03:36:46.145Z

So, here’s my stance on the current crisis.

I have no problem with FLETC graduates in a defensive posture to protect Centgov public property.

I have no problem with them executing duly issued warrants from a Centgov court.

I do have a problem with:

Picking people up off the street without positive ID and the aforementioned warrant.
Running around the streets of US cities dressed in more camo than the QRF in Fallujah on a Saturday night.

If you wanted to join the Ranger Regiment you should have exited 165 at Benning, not kept going to Glencoe.

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T03:39:49.160Z

WuWei:

Running around the streets of US cities dressed in more camo than the QRF in Fallujah on a Saturday night.

tangential but important note:

the uniforms they were wearing are purchasable by the public on ebay.

Business Insider

Anyone can buy the same military-style gear worn by federal officers making...

The entire ensemble, down to the minivan, is readily available to consumers through online shopping.

WuWei · 2020-07-18T03:40:32.500Z

Yeah, I know. They don’t buy theirs.

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T03:43:03.965Z

Yep, just highlighting it because while they’re out their playing cowboy they could run into somebody doing the paramilitary open carry cosplay and then things could really get weird.

The way the acting secretary and his officers are acting in Portland to me seems to only be instigating problems and confusion.

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T03:45:44.932Z

Also, their press releases are just wild:

dhs.gov

Acting Secretary Wolf Condemns The Rampant Long-Lasting Violence In Portland...

“The city of Portland has been under siege for 47 straight days by a violent mob while local political leaders refuse to restore order to protect their city. Each night, lawless anarchists destroy and desecrate property, including the federal...

Violent anarchists… everywhere!!

They’re violently inside our computers!

Oldandtired · 2020-07-18T03:46:13.392Z

How is that going to be any different than how MAGA supporters are treated now. They are assaulted, harassed and thrown out of businesses.
Seems to me that the left already have their secret police out there attacking the MAGA supporters. The only thing the leftist have left to do is round them all up and jail them.
Which is not even what happened with the unmarked cars. Last I heard they people detained were released without charges.
So keep hoping your dreams of jailing MAGA supporters might come true if Biden gets in and the leftist take the senate. We know they have to silence this group one way or another. The hate is strong for a group of people who have not burned and looted. They must be punished for not bowing to the leftist.

WuWei · 2020-07-18T03:46:48.095Z

hwyflier:

Yep, just highlighting it because while they’re out their playing cowboy they could run into somebody doing the paramilitary open carry cosplay and then things could really get weird.

The way the acting secretary and his officers are acting in Portland to me seems to only be instigating problems and confusion.

Come on man. Helen Keller could tell the difference.

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T03:54:18.381Z

WuWei:

Come on man. Helen Keller could tell the difference.

You say that,
but @Call_me_ishmael says the videos we are discussing are:

Call_me_Ishmael:

libs pretending to be federal agents and setting up obvious fake videos so as to get people all saying in unison “ORANGE MAN BAD”?

along with others in this very thread who saw the video and doubted who they were or even declared it a setup.

…and besides, nearly every Trump supporter in this thread has announced as if it’s fact that “He was antifa” and cheered what they saw.

I very much doubt they would care if it was a Fed in camo or a Proud Boy in a fed costume as long as someone they believe is antifa is getting the business.

mobiusptc · 2020-07-18T04:19:54.773Z

hwyflier:

Yep, just highlighting it because while they’re out their playing cowboy they could run into somebody doing the paramilitary open carry cosplay and then things could really get weird.

The way the acting secretary and his officers are acting in Portland to me seems to only be instigating problems and confusion.

Acting Secretary ( 247 days who followed another Acting secretary of 216 days)
Acting Dept Secretary (244 days who followed another acting for 216 days who followed another acting 359 days)
Acting Commissioner of CBP (416 days who followed another acting commissioner 91 days
Acting Director of ICE (378 days who followed another acting director 38 days )
Acting deputy director of ICE

sensing a trend…

WuWei · 2020-07-18T04:22:32.754Z

Can’t help you there, that’s silly.

WuWei · 2020-07-18T04:23:11.177Z

Senate confirmation is not a reflection of competence.

IndependentMindedJoe · 2020-07-18T04:26:10.529Z

Imagine if Obama did this and the reaction. I remember listening to people claiming Obama was going to rip up the constitution and become a tyrannical dictator. This is a step in that very direction, but now it is okay because the role has flipped. I am against the riots, but this is over the line. Imagine the reaction if Obama did this for something like the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The outrage would have been off the charts.

mobiusptc · 2020-07-18T04:27:07.556Z

WuWei:

Senate confirmation is not a reflection of competence.

well depends on who’s competence we are talking about isn’t it? the acting head? maybe. his boss? definitely.

mobiusptc · 2020-07-18T04:29:33.806Z

IndependentMindedJoe:

Imagine if Obama did this and the reaction. I remember listening to people claiming Obama was going to rip up the constitution and become a tyrannical dictator. This is a step in that very direction, but now it is okay because the role has flipped. I am against the riots, but this is over the line. Imagine the reaction if Obama did this for something like the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The outrage would have been off the charts.

fret not my friend. the Acting Homeland Security Deputy is going to take this nationwide! i am sure we will see concerned faces of “conservative” friends

NPR

DHS Official On Reports Of Federal Officers Detaining Protesters In Portland,...

NPR's Sarah McCammon talks with acting Homeland Security Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli about reports of federal officers using unmarked vehicles to detain protesters in Portland, Ore.

CUCCINELLI: Well, we are - we welcome - the more investigations, the better. With as much lawbreaking is going on, we’re seeking to prosecute as many people as are breaking the law as it relates to federal jurisdiction. That’s not always happening with respect to local jurisdiction and local offenses. But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we’re responsible for around the country.

hwyflier · 2020-07-18T04:33:03.450Z

WuWei:

Senate confirmation is not a reflection of competence.

It’s a good check that balances with accountability.

And apparently very very easy to completely avoid.