Another anti-vaxer dies

biggestal99 · 2021-11-15T14:31:26.488Z

gooddad409:

The firing business is unconstitutional and unAmerican as well.

It’s a simple choice.

Vax or punishment?

It’s not unamerican or unconstituional.

What about the draft which was mandated in the Vietnam war.

Serve or punishment?

Is the draft unconstitutional also.

Allan

zantax · 2021-11-15T14:40:29.895Z

biggestal99:

gooddad409:

The firing business is unconstitutional and unAmerican as well.

It’s a simple choice.

Vax or punishment?

It’s not unamerican or unconstituional.

What about the draft which was mandated in the Vietnam war.

Serve or punishment?

Is the draft unconstitutional also.

Allan

How many courts need to tell you otherwise before you get it?

gooddad409 · 2021-11-15T14:44:02.562Z

zantax:

biggestal99:

gooddad409:

The firing business is unconstitutional and unAmerican as well.

It’s a simple choice.

Vax or punishment?

It’s not unamerican or unconstituional.

What about the draft which was mandated in the Vietnam war.

Serve or punishment?

Is the draft unconstitutional also.

Allan

How many courts need to tell you otherwise before you get it?

He doesn’t want to get it.

biggestal99 · 2021-11-15T14:45:36.192Z

zantax:

How many courts need to tell you otherwise before you get it?

SCOTUS.

Allan

Tom_Ch · 2021-11-15T14:45:51.653Z

Borgia_dude:

WuWei:

Borgia_dude:

We’re talking mandated vaccines. It’s been done before. Where are the ovens? You’re defending the Nazi analogy, where are the ovens? It’s been over a hundred years. That’s some really slow incrementalism!

Are we? I thought we were talking mandates.

Yes, we’re taking mandates. Smallpox vaccine was mandates over 100 years ago. School vaccines were mandated 50 years ago (or so). According to your Nazi analogy, this leads to incrementalism which leads to ovens. Where are the ovens? It has had plenty of time to increment.

any day now…us is becoming dictatorship…

any…day…now…

biggestal99 · 2021-11-15T14:46:41.138Z

Tom_Ch:

any day now…us is becoming dictatorship…

any…day…now

The same as the civil war threads.

Any day now there will be one…

Allan

WuWei · 2021-11-15T14:55:28.641Z

Borgia_dude:

According to your Nazi analogy

It’s not my Nazi analogy. I’m not wearing a yellow star.

WuWei · 2021-11-15T14:56:30.649Z

Oldandtired:

The people who the German leaders in charge decided to demonize… The same as the leftist are deciding to demonize the unvaccinated.

The former is certainly correct. Arab leaders do the same thing. As do many others.

Jezcoe · 2021-11-15T14:56:51.132Z

zantax:

tnt:

WuWei:

It didn’t start with gas chambers.

Incrementalism!

We are so close to actually killing the unvaccinated, that we all should be SCARED!

Beware!

Seen this?

https://news.yahoo.com/noam-chomsky-unvaccinated-remove-themselves-171900487.html

On board?

Remember when people argued that to handle the pandemic that the most vulnerable be isolated and the rest of us who are healthy go about our business?

Now the unvaccinated are the most vulnerable.

Now… I don’t agree with Mr Chomsky… but now I hope that people can see the flaw in that argument in the early days of the pandemic.

WuWei · 2021-11-15T14:58:25.906Z

Tom_Ch:

any day now…us is becoming dictatorship…

any…day…now…

Trump isn’t POTUS anymore.

WuWei · 2021-11-15T14:59:55.101Z

Jezcoe:

but now I hope that people can see the flaw in that argument in the early days of the pandemic.

What’s the flaw?

Jezcoe:

Remember when people argued that to handle the pandemic that the most vulnerable be isolated and the rest of us who are healthy go about our business?

I remember calling for the sick to be isolated. From Day 1.

Orygun · 2021-11-15T15:46:10.192Z

Face diapers!

Newsweek – 11 Nov 21

Anti-Vaccine Doctor Who Called Mask Wearing 'Dangerous' Dies of COVID-19

Dr. Christopher Foley advocated for the use of vitamins and ivermectin to fight COVID-19, calling the vaccine a "human experiment."

Toll_Collector · 2021-11-15T15:46:28.619Z

tnt:

Toll_Collector:

Probably going on 3 to 4 months now, but I visited my mother in law in the hospital after her valve surgery. Yes to masks, but no proof of vaccination.

I can’t imagine any hospital in the country would let anyone in right now with a mask.

Honestly, I think that’s here to stay, along with air travel.

I think it’s pretty much a no brainer for hospitals. But airlines? Think about it. If you’re on a 5 hour plus flight to California sitting next to a Covid positive person wearing a mask, are you comfortable?

Besides that, do people on airlines not not drink or eat?

I’m not boarding any flights while a mask mandate is in place. At least no flights over 2 hours. But that’s just me and my preference.

tnt · 2021-11-15T16:20:04.383Z

Jezcoe:

Remember when people argued that to handle the pandemic that the most vulnerable be isolated and the rest of us who are healthy go about our business?

Now the unvaccinated are the most vulnerable.

Now… I don’t agree with Mr Chomsky… but now I hope that people can see the flaw in that argument in the early days of the pandemic.

Good point.

tnt · 2021-11-15T16:20:42.200Z

WuWei:

I remember calling for the sick to be isolated. From Day 1.

What’s the difference between that and isolating the unvaccinated?

tnt · 2021-11-15T16:23:11.046Z

Toll_Collector:

I think it’s pretty much a no brainer for hospitals. But airlines? Think about it. If you’re on a 5 hour plus flight to California sitting next to a Covid positive person wearing a mask, are you comfortable?

Besides that, do people on airlines not not drink or eat?

I’m not boarding any flights while a mask mandate is in place. At least no flights over 2 hours. But that’s just me and my preference.

Yeah, fair points.

but I’m really more thinking about just having some protection against colds and regular flu. I don’t mind the masks on the flights I’ve taken. And I realize full well they aren’t fool proof, but I like having the person next to me having a mask on for regular illness as much as anything.

Orygun · 2021-11-15T16:31:42.164Z

Austria seems to think it’s a good idea.

the Guardian – 14 Nov 21

Austria orders nationwide lockdown for those not fully vaccinated against Covid

Chancellor announces measure that will come into effect on Monday as country faces record numbers of cases

Sknyluv · 2021-11-15T16:32:14.313Z

tnt:

Toll_Collector:

I think it’s pretty much a no brainer for hospitals. But airlines? Think about it. If you’re on a 5 hour plus flight to California sitting next to a Covid positive person wearing a mask, are you comfortable?

Besides that, do people on airlines not not drink or eat?

I’m not boarding any flights while a mask mandate is in place. At least no flights over 2 hours. But that’s just me and my preference.

Yeah, fair points.

but I’m really more thinking about just having some protection against colds and regular flu. I don’t mind the masks on the flights I’ve taken. And I realize full well they aren’t fool proof, but I like having the person next to me having a mask on for regular illness as much as anything.

I saw somewhere that since the pandemic began, two common strains of influenza have died out.

biggestal99 · 2021-11-15T16:37:57.370Z

Toll_Collector:

I’m not boarding any flights while a mask mandate is in place. At least no flights over 2 hours. But that’s just me and my preference.

I went to Callie and back. Full plane. Mask mandates in place.

No problem (except at Newark airport where we taxied an extra 15 minutes for god knows what reason)

Allan

WuWei · 2021-11-15T16:49:52.116Z

tnt:

What’s the difference between that and isolating the unvaccinated?

In the words of John Tyler - “This is like playing cards with my brother’s kids”