So by your argument, the government must therefor be responsible for all of our gas stations to fuel our cars???
NOT!
Charging stations will become more common place as electric cars become more mainstream. Consumer demand will drive that, not big government.
JayJay
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Weāve been through this.
We already have a Keystone pipeline- this was a parallel one.
The amount of extra oil that would be refined is minimal in the big picture- and the bulk of that oil would then go overseas, not here. That likely puts upward, not downward pressure, on US oil prices (for reasons which you still obviously refuse to grasp, āmore oilā does not equal ālower pricesā).
The amount of jobs āproducedā in the US because of the pipeline is minimalā¦long term maybe 35-40 net jobsā¦and those who were slated to work on the pipeline are skilled laborers whose skills are still going to be in demand
And again- it is tar sands oil. Expensive to produce. Resource intensiveā¦especially in the use of water. Evironmentally damaging (not just in terms of CO2 emissions). And highly corrosive, leading to increased likelihood of pipeline leakage.
If you are pushing for tar sands oil to be produced as a way of āensuring US energy securityā, then you know ā ā ā ā all about oil production. Russia and OPEC donāt care about the project- please stop listening to talking points. Any time they want, they can kill tar sands production by ramping up their own.
You could learn about these things.
You choose to believe talking points instead.
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Jezcoe
123
Complaining about it being put on trucks kinda takes the wind out of the sails of that whole lost jobs argument.
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Ours? The pipeline comes from Canada. Are you some sort of globalist?
This is 100% true. Companies have been actively looking for buyers for this resource as the profit, at current oil price, is virtually nonexistent. It is an albatross around the neck of the oil companies. Write downs on tar sands have been in the billions yet conservatives here seem to be quite bullish. 
JayJay
126
Far too many people have been led to believe all oil reserves are exactly alike and ādrill baby drillā means āenergy independenceā and ācheap gasolineā.
Keystone XL is nothing but a symbolic flashpoint in a political battle. Its real significance is next to nothing in the global oil markets.
However, if people are unwilling to go beyond the talking points, weāll continue to have these pointless battles.
And I donāt even know a tenth as much as the real experts in these fieldsā¦but the information is there to be gotten with not that much research.
But it involves turning off the TV and getting away from the partisan media aggregators and doing the work.
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Keystone wouldnāt exist without Canadian taxpayers.
No, you buy it from us refine it and sell it to China.
They also donāt even use trucks, its shipped by train.
the point of pipeline is gas companies donāt wanna pay the transporting fees.
The unions like to say ā10,000ā but more then likely far less maybe around 5,000 temporary jobs lasting a few months, and less then 100 full time long term jobs.
union math is misleading.
they count jobs like this.
I get hired for a contract for two month, then laid off and hired back on for another contract.
those are two jobs even though Iām hired by the same company to do the same exact job.
No, everyone with half a brain knew this project was dead and a waste of money four years ago.
Certainly true especially among the lib media. They wouldnāt tell the truth if their lives depended on it.
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That is something I never understood: it was no secret that if a Democrat won, they would can the project. Even during the primaries they were talking about it. I wonder why that didnāt encourage them to rush the project?
Funny thing is all the major labor union working on XL supported Biden knowing he would shut this project down.
they smell the money in Green Energy and Biden want to build, build, build.
my union was strong for Biden in 2020 and we lost jobs on this project.
Are you implying that they were āmilkingā the project?
You gotta fight hard for every project, even if its only two contracts.
but everyone knew XL was dead the second it became political.
DMK
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Or put oil in the hands of our enemy to be used to exploit our economy?
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DMK
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As though it is just a union job in a vacuum, right? Those folks donāt go to restaurants, local grocery stores, etc. Pffft.
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who do you think is buying all that oil refined in the gulf, hint its not Americans.
WuWei
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Doesnāt matter. Itās not our governmentās place to kill jobs.
