An unarmed young woman was shot dead by police in the Capitol today

[vaard]

Understood…

Thank you for your time…

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

Why?

You know why. Let’s not play games.

Didn’t we just have 4 years of instability? How long has England and the EU been unstable? Is that going to continue?

[tzu]

If they’d just stayed outside, all we’d be talking about is a couple of thousand ardent protesters who don’t believe their votes counted.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

Where’d you go?

I have other things to pay attention to, in my life. Relax.

I will respond to your post in due time.

[WildRose]

She was the only one going through the window and she was unarmed.

If the mob had forced the door you have a huge disparity of force and an obvious deadly threat to everyone you are defending.

Hosing the crowd at that point becomes not only legal but a necessity to stop them.

Like I say though, if this is the new standard I’m fine with it but we’re going to start piling bodies up like cord wood when future protest turn violent.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

No? What was it founded on? What does the DOI say about it?

The Declaration of Independence is rhetoric. Beautiful rhetoric, but still just rhetoric.

It was a call to arms and statement of defiance. I love it - I literally have a souvenir version that I bought at the Archives Gift Shop framed on office wall.

That’s not an answer. That rhetoric changed the world. And it was a cry of populism.

Come on man!

[WuWei]

@tzu

If they’d just stayed outside, all we’d be talking about is a couple of thousand ardent protesters who don’t believe their votes counted.

Or in the lobby.

[WildRose]

It literally changed the world so no, it’s not “just rhetoric”.

It is a truly amazing piece of work and part of the Organic Laws of The United States.

[tzu]

Lobby generally open to unscheduled tourists on Jan 6, every four years?

[WuWei]

@tzu

Lobby generally open to unscheduled tourists on Jan 6, every four years?

Yesterday. If they stay in the lobby, they aren’t threatening the ruling class.

[GWH]

@WildRose

And you’d probably be found guilty of murder if you did.

No I wouldn’t. My life was in danger.

@WildRose

In most states you cannot legally shoot anyone attempting to get into your home or business by force unless and until they have succeeded in doing so.

She crossed the threshold. The shot was fired when her torso came in the window.

@WildRose

Hey, I’m fine if this is the bar we want to set for the future but when it is applied nationwide at future protests that get out of hand we’re going to need a ■■■■ load of freezer vans to hold the bodies.

So am I. So far, about 80 people found out stupid hurts.

[tzu]

If it’s generally open, sure. If it’s not, they’re asking to pose for the cops. Prob. on federal charges.

[WildRose]

@GWH

No I wouldn’t. My life was in danger.

No, that argument wont’ hold up in most states.

The last I agree with.

[WuWei]

@tzu

If it’s generally open, sure. If it’s not, they’re asking to pose for the cops. Prob. on federal charges.

The ruling class was in a stronghold, like the chapel in the castle. The girl got shot because she got too close to her betters.

[tzu]

Broadly, yes. But, if we’re discussing material outcomes, trespassing on federal property is a dodgy proposition.

If you want to do it right, look no further than Alcatraz.

[WuWei]

@tzu

Broadly, yes. But, if we’re discussing material outcomes, trespassing on federal property is a dodgy proposition.

If you want to it right, look no further than Alcatraz.

Nah, they wouldn’t have prosecuted the lobby after the cops let them walk in.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

That’s not an answer.

I know, that was intentional. I’m a little non compos mentis at the moment.

@WuWei

That rhetoric changed the world. And it was a cry of populism.

Sure. And it was beautiful.

[tzu]

Depends on tactics and messaging. The 504 sit-in in SF remains the gold standard.

[WildRose]

I don’t believe anyone ever tried to break into Alcatraz.

Shall we move the congress to Alcatraz?

[GWH]

@WildRose

No, that argument wont’ hold up in most states.

I’m under no obligation to let them grow in numbers past the window in order to defend myself. In fact, I’ve already retreated from my living room into the hallway, now barricaded. They’re still coming, one just got through, others are behind her. They’re in the house, now taking away my last refuge. I’m taking the shot.