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Where do you get that load of krap from?

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Why would I buy an electric car that serves me absolutely no purpose whatsoever? It’s useless for me. I take a ton of trips. Until they come up with an SUV that can go 8-10 hours a day, has 4wd for snow and trails, I can throw friends and golf clubs in the back… no desire whatsoever to consider an electric.

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This idea that since you have no use for it then no one else will is very strange.

Don’t worry, the EV Infrastructure will be built out of urban and suburban centers first and then radiate out from there.

I get being contrarian, but this idea that ICE is going to all of a sudden disappear is weird.

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That’s what it seems like they want. Didn’t AOC push something recently that had fossil fuels being eliminated within 15 years or something crazy?

Ahh, high speed rail to overtake air travel. How’s that going in CA?

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That is a pipe dream but it is aspirational.

ICE vehicles will exist as long as an EV alternative for it is not available. That ball does not start rolling though unless the infrastructure exists.

Take the urban setting for example. There are a ton of cars in urban areas but very few driveways… so to own an EV in that setting without adequate charging stations is not really an option. But if the investment is put into that then the urban car market can change to EV since the vast majority of the trips are within 50 miles of home.

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“we” don’t have the money

Sure. Sure. We didn’t have the money for our adventures in Iraq or Afghanistan either and yet we still found a way to pay for it somehow. We didn’t have money to bail out the auto industry and yet we managed to pay for that somehow. We didn’t have money for the “tax cuts” that were basically a giveaway to the already wealthy, yet we managed to pay for that somehow. Funny how that works.

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Forced? :laughing:

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We’ll find the money. I don’t buy the bovine feces of an excuse. Our infrastructure is a mess. Don’t call ourselves first world country when our road, bridges, public transportation looks like something from Somali. If you ever been to Korea or Japan, you’ll know what modern first world country looks like.

Invest in our country.

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Money spent to benefit a few select people (the wealthy, Halliburton, the automakers, the bankers) - good.

Money spent to benefit everyone (infrastructure, education, UBI, health) - bad.

According to Republicans anyway. Must be the fuzzy math.

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Show me one Republican who was in favor of Obama’s automaker bailouts.

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When they mandate gas cars stopped being produced, yea. Like the green new deal.

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“Show me one Republican who was in favor of Obama’s automaker bailouts.”

Ok.

"Thirty-two GOP representatives voted with 205 Democrats in support of the bill "

I know, you asked for one. :laughing:

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Time to bring back the horse and buggy too? :laughing:

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We can’t build out an EV infrastructure because of the fear of a mandate that is imagined to happen sometime in the future is one of the worst reasons I have ever heard.

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I have heard of no such mandate even being proposed let alone voted on. But no, we should totally hold off just in case it could be true. :roll_eyes:

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You’re not an early adopter. Fine. Wait until technology gets to the point where it meet your needs. Until then, don’t hinder the progress and technology advances. Government should continue to invest in electric cars. Eventually we’ll get there.

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Companies that want to make income from selling electric cars should invest in them, not the government.
If an electric car is developed that people see as better for themselves than the current technology, then electric cars will take over.
We don’t need the government risking hundreds of billions that may not pan out.

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Disagree. This technology benefits everyone. USA should be the leader. We don’t want China or other countries to take lead.

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How would the urban market for EV’s work without the infrastructure to support it?

Getting penetration into Large urban areas where street parking is the norm is not going to be built out by private companies.

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You don’t know how that will turn out, though.