American infrastructure is failing period

[Smyrna]

@biggestal99

Funny it was okay when trump was diverting funds to build his wall.

Now consider the money saved by building the wall and that it far exceeds the cost. Can you discern the difference?

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

It is an infrastructure for electric vehicles.

What is wrong with building that out?

First…“we” don’t have the money. Second…“we” don’t currently own anywhere near that number of electric vehicles that would place this front and center as a priority. That’s why I said, it’s “pushing an electric car agenda”.

In the old days it was said, placing the cart before the horse…get it?

If one of the priorities is to upgrade the Fleet of federal vehicles to electric, then it would make sense to build out the infrastructure to support that.

[Rodeo]

@DisturbedGuy

This isn’t the old days. In order to give people the choice of purchasing an electric vehicle, there has to be charging stations to support them. It’s an investment in the future.

I m certainly no expert on energy…

But…

Are there not tens of thousands of businesses in this country…privately owned…where people buy fuel.

Why is it up to the taxpayers to build charging stations with public money to compete with those privately owned businesses so people can buy vehicles that then fail to contribute any fuel tax money to maintaining the roads?

Oh I know…because AOC said it’s over in 12 years unless we save the planet.

If electric cars are all that popular then it shouldn’t take tax credits to buy them and taxpayers to fuel them.

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

If one of the priorities is to upgrade the Fleet of federal vehicles to electric, then it would make sense to build out the infrastructure to support that.

Really? What electric vehicles are for sale currently that would fill this void?

[biggestal99]

@Smyrna

Now consider the money saved by building the wall and that it far exceeds the cost. Can you discern the difference?

The money saved? Lol. That’s an opinion of yours that I don’t share.

Diverting funds took money away from the defense of the United States.

The wall that was built is a multi billion dollar white elephant.

Allan

[Smyrna]

@biggestal99

The money saved? Lol. That’s an opinion of yours that I don’t share.

The real cost of illegal immigration, and it’s not avocados

The Cost of Illegal Immigration to US Taxpayers | FAIR

Study: 14.5M Illegal Aliens Living in U.S., Costing Americans $134B a Year

Report: Record 14.45M illegal immigrants in US, cost $133.7B

All that “lol” must be you looking in the mirror?

[biggestal99]

immigrants (legal and illegal) are a net plus for America, no doubt

We shall agree to disagree on the subject.

Allan

[Smyrna]

@biggestal99

immigrants (legal and illegal) are a net plus for America, no doubt

We shall agree to disagree on the subject.

Allan

…are ILLEGAL…PERIOD and there’s no disagreement because this law applies to all equally.

[Rodeo]

@biggestal99

Diverting funds took money away from the defense of the United States.

The wall that was built is a multi billion dollar white elephant.

If all of this is “infrastructure”…

$400 billion for home-based care for elderly and disabled

$35 billion for climate change-related R&D

$50 billion for “research infrastructure” at the National Science Foundation

$50 billion for new Commerce Department office “dedicated to monitoring domestic industrial capacity”

$213 billion for home sustainability and public housing…

Then building a wall on the southern border which the people working on the border for ICE and the Border Patrol helped design for the purpose of controlling illegal immigration, keeping out drugs, human trafficking and yes people spreading Covid certainly can be considered part of the National Defense. I just heard our country has had to open a third military base to housing all the illegals that are coming to and apparently being released into our country.

BTW a while back didn’t you assure us that all the wall funding was still there and like on March 20 Clueless Joe would re start some construction? I just goggled “current border wall construction” and got nothing?

[biggestal99]

@Rodeo

BTW a while back didn’t you assure us that all the wall funding was still there and like on March 20 Clueless Joe would re start some construction? I just goggled “current border wall construction” and got nothing?

Wall funding is still there, will be used to maintain existing high point of entry wall, not middle of the desert which has minimal blockage wall.

In other words smart maintaining…

Allan

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

If one of the priorities is to upgrade the Fleet of federal vehicles to electric, then it would make sense to build out the infrastructure to support that.

Really? What electric vehicles are for sale currently that would fill this void?

It isn’t about what is current but what is produced in the future.

If the infrastructure is not there then the transition to EV would be longer than necessary.

[Rodeo]

@biggestal99

Wall funding is still there, will be used to maintain existing high point of entry wall, not middle of the desert which has minimal blockage wall.

In other words smart maintaining…

Smart maintaining???

That’s a joke. Who’s got time for “smart maintaining” when there are so many new illegals that Biden basically invited to the country to deal with.

Just a suggestion but you seriously might wanna read up on the current mess at the border. That wall has way more to do with this nations security than most of the crap in the infrastructure bill has to do with infrastructure…

Personally I d prefer to spend the money on the wall than on electric car charging stations or whatever that junk Pelosi and Schumer stuffed into the Covid bill.

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

It isn’t about what is current but what is produced in the future.

If the infrastructure is not there then the transition to EV would be longer than necessary.

If anyone desires an electric vehicle, let them…and THEM ALONE pay for it. The government did not pay for gas stations, those that saw an opportunity did. If electric vehicles are in our future, there’s an opportunity to make money. Let those with this vision, pay for these charging stations…and welcome to the United States of America.

[Rodeo]

@Smyrna

If anyone desires an electric vehicle, let them…and THEM ALONE pay for it. The government did not pay for gas stations, those that saw an opportunity did. If electric vehicles are in our future, there’s an opportunity to make money. Let those with this vision, pay for these charging stations…and welcome to the United States of America.

Amen…(I tried to say that above but wasn’t as articulate as you).

Great post.

[Jezcoe]

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

It isn’t about what is current but what is produced in the future.

If the infrastructure is not there then the transition to EV would be longer than necessary.

If anyone desires an electric vehicle, let them…and THEM ALONE pay for it. The government did not pay for gas stations, those that saw an opportunity did. If electric vehicles are in our future, there’s an opportunity to make money. Let those with this vision, pay for these charging stations…and welcome to the United States of America.

The government has heavily subsidized the oil and gas industry.

For the life of me I don’t understand why you would be against something that expands the automobile market.

[Camp]

Here is a deal I would make.

Cut that 174 billion down to 20 billion for the wall completion… infrastructure…and 20 billion for charge stations.

Add an additional 20 billion to the charge station to resume keystone pipeline… infrastructure.

[Smyrna]

@Jezcoe

The government has heavily subsidized the oil and gas industry.

For the life of me I don’t understand why you would be against something that expands the automobile market.

Then…professionally speaking…government…stay OUT of my market.

[Smyrna]

@Camp

Here is a deal I would make.

Cut that 174 billion down to 20 billion for the wall completion… infrastructure…and 20 billion for charge stations.

Add an additional 20 billion to the charge station to resume keystone pipeline… infrastructure.

Camp for POTUS 2024!

[Camp]

It is fractioning…not expanding.

[Rodeo]

Senator Kennedy, whom I really like, just went on Fox and said “if you think this is an infrastructure bill you’d better stay away from sharp objects. This is a green new deal political slush fund.”