America Party-Will It Work?

Unless one can self fund, Pols need to raise money to compete. Some want to change that model, but it is a catch 22, need the money to fight the money. Congress could fix it…there just are not enough to make it happen. The progressive caucus is not big enough to make it happen. Yet.

And they won’t be, politicians love that gravy train.

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Trump could not have won under the technology and systems of the 1980s. The big Newspapers (NYTs, WashPo) and broadcast media would have (as they tried later) labeled him not a legitimate candidate who must not be voted for. In 1916, alternative sources (the internet, FoxNews, talk radio) declared he was a legitimate candidate and “mainstream media” was not legitimate. That could never have happened in the past.

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The Bull Moose is in the China Shop again. :wink:

lol. you are joshing biggestal.

fiscal conservatism for the GOP in 2025?

you should be doing standup.

Allan

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A guy at college gets arrested for passing-out fliers
(fliers aren’t free speech.)

So he saves his money and buys advertisments, gets arrested again
(paid advertisements aren’t free speech.)

So he stands on a stredt corner and shouts his messaage, gets arrested again (blcoknig the sidewalk and shouting aren;t free speech.)

What is free speech?
sit alone in your room with the doors and windows closed and talk to yourself.

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There was a law, the 1st. And Hillary Clinton tried to violate it.

The 2025 GOP is not conservative. It is MAGA.

There is nothing conservative about MAGA.

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He is talking avout a centrist party to draw moderates from both sides but who knows. Talk is cheap

Who it hurts depends on who each party runs.

The GOP embraces fiscal conservatism, while Democrats don’t.

Musk is a fiscal conservative hardliner. Trump is a fiscal conservative pragmatist. While hardliners have it right in theory, in reality they are just all or nothing dreamers.

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Looking at his platform thus far, it is more conservative than centrist.

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The amount of money and dirty politics funneled in between the democrats and republicans will make it nearly impossible for a third party to enter in.

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he pragmatised 8,400,000,000,000 in debt his first term.

well on his way to surpassing that number in term two.

Allan

We can break that down as follows:

First, we must take out COVID related dept, leaving $4.8 trillion.

Tax cuts were scored at $1.9 trillion. I don’t agree, but in any case, that isn’t spending.

2019 Budget act. $1.7 trillion. DEM House controlled the purse strings. Trump was held hostage.

That leaves a more responsible $1.2 trillion.

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Keep in mind that we are still in Biden’s fiscal year until September 30. Trump’s hasn’t officially begun.

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If the core component of his platform is going to be BALANCED BUDGETS then he won’t attract very many prominent politicians to his party. Furthermore, if that’s what his candidates will run on then it’s not likely going to be even remotely successful.

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Is he? Or does he want to control government for his own benefit?

We all know what Musk wants…

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