What works in NJ may not be appropriate for Texas.

I see your point in a large organization. I will just say that in this situation, a smaller organization(one person fired was the HR person), was run by a pill head(which I didn’t realize until later) and she did run a successful business into the ground in less than ten years after purchasing it from the founders. Two of the fired workers I saw fired at a whim do now work with me at a much larger organization at very high levels. So I see your point, but in this instance it doesn’t really fit.

Was she union?

No for 13 years I worked in a relatively small company, Owner, eight middle management, and about 30 regular workers and up to 200 seasonal workers. There was no union.

And she was?

Which one? Pill head? She was president/owner. I was middle management.

Owner? :rofl: How does a union prevent mismanagement by an owner?

Bezos is asking himself this question now…:slight_smile:

I think it is silly to claim “union” was the solution to your story.

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Amazon is not being mismanaged.

The best unions are minority stake partnerships. Some of our western PA high tech steel companies that have survived operate this way with piece work pay as a productivity incentive and a big say in safety to check corporate cost cutting. Needs to be win-win to really work.

Public unions are another matter, no pressure for performance and in collusion with too many elected office holders.

What did unions do to the steel industry as a whole in your state?

They helped elect politicians that off shored many of their jobs and brought environment controls that also closed many older facilities.

Amazon can make the union work if it bargains for incentives. The nonsense about restroom breaks was enough to justify unionizing there IMO.

Overall negative. Can work with unions if done as a win-win.

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They ran steel out of the US with their demands.

Then they came to Texas and tried to unionize the oil patch. I was there.

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No kidding. Every state is different. Each person has to do what they feel is right for them. For example, I have a CDL, road maintenance in Texas pays around 20-23 an hour. That’s an insult to me. To others, maybe not. A midnight shift at an Amazon warehouse in Texas makes just shy of 18 an hour.

In some cases they did. Many cases in fact.

Here today they are courting university and medical as the two big prime targets of dues revenue.

The idea that a tenured or even adjunct professor or even grad student needs union representation is laughable, yet we are there.

That’s a good idea, but usually a no no for unions. No union I’ve ever been in had incentives. They have quotas. But no incentive to go beyond. Just meet them.

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Cost of living.

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I work at a major university and our graduate student employees have a union. And I think it’s a very good thing. I know grad students without it at other institutions really get taken advantage of.

No way cost of living is that far off.