Nobody lol. Okie well that’s not true
Try searching the term on this forum and see if it comes up
It’s less than two years old.
This iteration
No they don’t. You hold unprovable positions.
So 10s of millions of Americans owe their livelihood to pure luck and inheritance, with a heaping serving of big government? My success story is unparalleled in American history? 
It’s a liberal thing. You are more likely to see a sasquatch than you are to hear a conservative use that stupid boot strap thing. It’s libs who can stop saying it.
Exactly! I prefer to call it motivation and self reliance. But I’m guessing that is unheard of in LIB circles. As idealistic as world peace. 
Wow what’s with the if… then… logic.
I didn’t say any of those things nor suggest not imply nor another synonym.
You have taken it to extreme. Society and government are not synonyms.
You can call it holly dolly
The fact is that projecting individual experience onto society at large is a mistake
A lot of you guys male fun of sociology as a major but it would good if you guys read up on it
Just a bit. No deep dive is needed.
Yes plantation is a liberal thing
Boot strap is a liberal thing
Soon the President will be a liberal.
Why?
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I have not
Not sure how you read that into my post.
They are not synonymous
Edit: wait you mean the collective me ?
Environment, nature, nurture, etc
Yes you have. With the term “boot strap”. “No help at all in any environment ever”. That’s not what it means.
You are using them as such in this context.
Do you really not see the difference between helping someone and a government program I am forced to pay for?
What are you talking about?
I’m still not following. You still seem to be implying that society can’t be successful without luck and inheritance.
Of course i see the difference
With whom are you arguing?
My exaggeration of boot strapping is surely purposeful. It’s not what it means. I already agreed with you earlier.
I use it as hyperbole and derogatory.
Individuals are not society. That’s my point. They make up society.
You need to view society through a different prism than an individual
Why?
Then why do you demand the one?
Why? What’s the difference?
Because its iterations come up constantly in conservative lore. “Why don’t these people just pull themselves up by their imagined bootstraps when i did”. It’s happening in this very thread… one man with his success (which i no way begrudge) believes that tens if millions of Americans are just like him.
He needs no proof. He just believes
Demand a government? I don’t trust you. (Collectively)
