Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, meet Tina Forte, a real New Yorker and your challenger

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

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It affected neighborhoods where crime was out of control. There was no need to crack down on crime in areas like Yorkville, Sutton Place, Tudor City.

And then it kept going. Stop and Frisk picking up so many young black kids for pot that decriminalizing pot became a political reality.

So, now you are accusing blacks as causing NYC’s crime?

There is a difference between crime prevention and having the police occupy a neighborhood and shake down random people based on race.

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

Major deflection alert

You made a comment about the police cracking down in certain neighborhoods based on race. Are you accusing blacks of having committed more street crime during that time period?

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

Major deflection alert

You made a comment about the police cracking down in certain neighborhood based on race. Are you accusing blacks of having committed more street crime during that time period?

When the police are given the power to stop people without cause or a warrant and conduct a physical search of them… is that something that the Founders would have given a thumbs up about?

Would they have maybe said that that situation was a tyrannical police state?

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

Major deflection alert

You made a comment about the police cracking down in certain neighborhood based on race. Are you accusing blacks of having committed more street crime during that time period?

When the police are given the power to stop people without cause or a warrant and conduct a physical search of them… is that something that the Founders would have given a thumbs up about?

Would they have maybe said that that situation was a tyrannical police state?

Still won’t answer the question, I see. Does the question fall into a category of an inconvenient subject matter?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Just stop. There’s a court case and everything. Stop and frisk in and of itself isn’t racist, but the way it was deployed sure was.

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

Major deflection alert

You made a comment about the police cracking down in certain neighborhood based on race. Are you accusing blacks of having committed more street crime during that time period?

When the police are given the power to stop people without cause or a warrant and conduct a physical search of them… is that something that the Founders would have given a thumbs up about?

Would they have maybe said that that situation was a tyrannical police state?

Still won’t answer the question, I see. Does the question fall into a category of an inconvenient subject matter?

I understand that you don’t want to face up that there was police state put upon black neighborhoods.

I can only assume that you are fine with the police stopping people without cause or a warrant and searching their person.

[johnwk2]

Back to that certain neighborhood thing where crime was out of control?

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Supreme_War_Pig

Again, put here in fly over, it seems that all NYC mayors have sucked.

It is possibly the most impossible job in the world. In the last election I voted for Kathryn Garcia because she used to run the Sanitation Department and I think there needs to be people who just know how government works

Didn’t Tony Soprano used to run the Sanitation Department?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Supreme_War_Pig

Again, put here in fly over, it seems that all NYC mayors have sucked.

It is possibly the most impossible job in the world. In the last election I voted for Kathryn Garcia because she used to run the Sanitation Department and I think there needs to be people who just know how government works

Didn’t Tony Soprano used to run the Sanitation Department?

He had a private sanitation business

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You are the one who brought race into the subject. Are you suggesting blacks are responsible for most of NYC’s street crime?

A policy that is directed towards blacks people is going to find more things deemed to be illegal among that group.

As the example I already stated, so many young black males were found because of stop and frisk to be carrying small amounts of pot that were still illegal amounts that the conversation about pot decriminalization began in earnest. It wasn’t because black people were more likely to be breaking the law in carrying pot… it is just that they were stopped and searched by the police more.

Being stopped in the street and searched by the police with no evidence of criminality is what was happening well into the Bloomberg administration.

What would the founders think about the agents of the State being able to stop, detain and search someone without warrant or cause?

Major deflection alert

You made a comment about the police cracking down in certain neighborhood based on race. Are you accusing blacks of having committed more street crime during that time period?

When the police are given the power to stop people without cause or a warrant and conduct a physical search of them… is that something that the Founders would have given a thumbs up about?

Would they have maybe said that that situation was a tyrannical police state?

Still won’t answer the question, I see. Does the question fall into a category of an inconvenient subject matter?

I understand that you don’t want to face up that there was police state put upon black neighborhoods.

I can only assume that you are fine with the police stopping people without cause or a warrant and searching their person.

You seem to be quite comfortable making erroneous and insulting assumptions rather than answering if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

.

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

You seem to be quite comfortable making erroneous and insulting assumptions rather than answering if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

I like how there is the protestation of making an insulting assumption and the making an assumption.

So let us keep it simple.

Stop and Frisk… a good thing or a bad thing?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

You are deliberately misinterpreting what we are saying. Stop and frisk illegaly targeted minorities, and that was proven

[johnwk2]

Really? Quote my words doing so.

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You seem to be quite comfortable making erroneous and insulting assumptions rather than answering if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

I like how there is the protestation of making an insulting assumption and the making an assumption.

So let us keep it simple.

Stop and Frisk… a good thing or a bad thing?

Still won’t answer the question if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

That post right there for example👆

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Jezcoe

@johnwk2

You seem to be quite comfortable making erroneous and insulting assumptions rather than answering if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

I like how there is the protestation of making an insulting assumption and the making an assumption.

So let us keep it simple.

Stop and Frisk… a good thing or a bad thing?

Still won’t answer the question if you are accusing blacks of having committed more street crime in New York City during that time period?

Not playing the game.

I can guess what your answer is and how it squares with what your interpretation of the founders’s intent mixer be wild

[johnwk2]

@Supreme_War_Pig

That post right there for example👆

So, you simply made something up. I never expressed an opinion on stop-and-frisk. But now I will. ask, did it help reduce crime in NYC?

[Jezcoe]

@johnwk2

@Supreme_War_Pig

That post right there for example👆

So, you simply made something up. I never expressed an opinion on stop-and-frisk. But now I will. ask, did it help reduce crime in NYC?

No… it didn’t.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@johnwk2

@Supreme_War_Pig

That post right there for example👆

did it help reduce crime in NYC?

Let us assume it did. Does that justify the racist manner in which it was deployed?