After the dems ban AR-15's then what?

once-ler · 2020-08-24T01:50:00.457Z

One of the laws allows gun owners to carry weapons in national parks; that law took effect in February 2012 and replaced President Ronald Reagan’s policy that required guns to be locked in glove compartments of trunks of cars that enter national parks.

Another gun law signed by Obama allows Amtrak passengers to carry guns in checked baggage, a move that reversed a measure put in place after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Here is the link again for you.

ThoughtCo

No, Barack Obama Wasn't the Most Anti-Gun President Ever

Find out why President Barack Obama's record on gun control is weak. Learn about the only gun laws signed by Obama during his two terms in office.

jcrandall · 2020-08-24T01:51:22.760Z

It is a continual conundrum that has resulted in severe stifling of critical thought on most political subjects.

WuWei · 2020-08-24T01:52:59.923Z

jcrandall:

No. Just Feeeelingggsss.

Sure. Empathy. Frustration. Feelings.

WuWei · 2020-08-24T01:53:18.353Z

I read it, did you?

once-ler · 2020-08-24T01:53:55.983Z

I read and comprehend it

WuWei · 2020-08-24T01:54:22.171Z

once-ler:

I read and comprehend it

Do you? Do you really?

once-ler · 2020-08-24T01:55:05.955Z

Yes I do.

Samm · 2020-08-24T02:06:11.236Z

jcrandall:

Voicing anonymous internet opinions is a measure of manliness? Lol… we ARE in Trump’s new America now.

My opinion is this: I don’t agree with Trump on bumpstocks.

But that doesn’t matter; he banned them out of pure political expediency. The fact it elicits such an emotional response from folks here definitely suggests that they don’t agree with him either.

More evasiveness. Can’t you ever just respond to the question?

Samm · 2020-08-24T02:08:19.648Z

jcrandall:

No. I am not ignoring that. Just as with bumpstocks HE thought it would benefit him. Guy can’t tell the truth to save his life and does things with only his benefit in mind, so I don’t trust him as much with my 2nd A rights as you do, apparently.

How do you know he thought it would benefit him? But I ask again … do you think it benefited him politically?

jcrandall · 2020-08-24T02:15:31.523Z

Why don’t you ask him yourself? He already Tweeted about this in 2018. Here’s what he said:

“Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.”

Sounds like he thought that a ban would benefit him politically. Sound that way to you? See, I use a man’s words to answer questions about him. That is the only evidence we have. It is just too bad for ardent Trump supporters that he doesn’t really have any true stance on anything other than what is good for him.

Now, did it benefit him politically? I would say that people who failingly support him will continue to do so, even if it means they lose rights as a result. So, yeah, it benefited him, but not in the way you might think.

jcrandall · 2020-08-24T02:37:02.692Z

I’ve read many a time on this very forum that legislating or decision making based on feeeeelinngss is a bad thing. Still true?

WuWei · 2020-08-24T02:39:44.685Z

jcrandall:

I’ve read many a time on this very forum that legislating or decision making based on feeeeelinngss is a bad thing. Still true?

Isn’t that what I said?

jcrandall · 2020-08-24T03:51:23.161Z

Is it…?

Samm · 2020-08-24T07:33:06.563Z

jcrandall:

Why don’t you ask him yourself? He already Tweeted about this in 2018. Here’s what he said:

“Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.”

Sounds like he thought that a ban would benefit him politically. Sound that way to you? See, I use a man’s words to answer questions about him. That is the only evidence we have. It is just too bad for ardent Trump supporters that he doesn’t really have any true stance on anything other than what is good for him.

Now, did it benefit him politically? I would say that people who failingly support him will continue to do so, even if it means they lose rights as a result. So, yeah, it benefited him, but not in the way you might think.

Don’t be silly. Trump is not a member here.

That tweet could mean anything … remember he lies about everything.

Physics_Hunter · 2020-08-24T07:51:14.597Z

Leftists just want to stop Conservatives from stopping them.

Mic drop.

altair1013 · 2020-08-25T19:57:46.409Z

WCD9973:

I’m not gonna have yet ANOTHER hypathical gun control debate.

Good. Because you would lose.

RayStark · 2020-08-25T20:18:53.015Z

I realize that’s rough here. There are a couple of rural county Sheriffs who are more amenable than urban Sheriffs if you are willing to travel to their county to apply.

I feel our gun laws here are onerous but I haven’t been hearing of wholesale gun grabbing yet.

I consider gun laws in general to be infringements on the 2nd Amendment but I’m not in step with some of my Californian brethren on that.

WuWei · 2020-08-25T21:11:59.128Z

You got a valid carry permit? Know any ordinary citizens who do?

Are those “rural” permits good statewide?

RayStark · 2020-08-25T21:36:44.113Z

Actually an experience I had a visiting an ATM a few weeks back has me considering applying for a concealed carry permit. I’m too old and slow to take on young guys with my fists these days.

I would have felt more secure armed than just carrying my pepper spray container concealed in my palm when facing the distinct possibility of having 4 four guys at least three decades younger than myself giving me a beatdown.

WuWei · 2020-08-25T21:48:58.629Z

RayStark:

Actually an experience I had a visiting an ATM a few weeks back has me considering applying for a concealed carry permit. I’m too old and slow to take on young guys with my fists these days.

I would have felt more secure armed than just carrying my pepper spray container concealed in my palm when facing the distinct possibility of having 4 four guys at least three decades younger than myself giving me a beatdown.

Good luck.