Just pro-lifers?
Hint: Guatemalans and Hondurans who are in Mexico are no longer at risk of the perils they fled their country for.
And your attempted deflection still does not justify deliberately killing a quarter of our next generation.
Are any of the people who are OK with abortions, especially ones right up to birth, for capital punishment? If not, why not?
I have no problem with capital punishment as long as it is done for very serious offenses (serial killers or something) where they have admitted to the crime.
Why? Again, all you are doing is asserting your own values. Never explaining how they are derived.
a) Plenty of Mexicans come north illegally each year so Iām guessing you have no standing for the position youāve taken.
b) Iāve made no deflection. Iāve stated that rhe pro-liferās stance ought to be the well-being of immigrants fleeing poverty and danger should take precedence over Americans already here. If it does not, the pro-liferās value-decision-making process is inconsistent.
I for one will never support abortion unless the Motherās life is at risk, the woman was raped, or in the case of incest! It is NOT a form of birth control and there is absolutely NO reason to turn it into ābirth controlā issue! Just because a baby can not function on itās own it is NOT a parasite! A child, can not function in this world on itās own so would you be OK with a 8 year old being āabortedā? When will it ever stop once it is literally OKād for right after birth?
First, āright up to birthā is more or less nonexistent.
Second, Iām against capital punishment for a number of reasons:
- the possibility the state has it wrong
- the cost is a great deal higher
- it isnāt comparable to abortion in that keeping the prisoner alive doesnāt violate someone elseās autonomy and self-determination over their own body.
However, Iād be open to capital punishment given:
- Particularly heinous crimes
- A burden of proof standard greater than āBeyond a reasonable doubtā is established for these cases. There can be no doubt.
Then you support almost all abortions, as the risk to the motherās life for carrying to term is like an order of magnitude greater than abortion.
To clarify i only support abortion in first 3 months. I believe that gives enough time for choice. Anything after it must be due to life of mother
Heres a question: why does the life of a mother take precedence over the baby if the baby can be medically kept alive?
Mexicans arenāt the elephant in the womb.
Yes they areā¦metaphorically speaking.
Conditional yes, arbitrary, certainly not outside of the mentally disturbed that is.
Conditional and arbitrary.
Thereās nothing arbitrary about it.
Observation and evaluation if I have time. If theyāre breaking say into my bedroom itās going to be a very short evaluation process before I shoot.
No, the moment they threaten my life they have set the value of their own.
Thatās their decision.
The state to a large extent determines what any of us can do with our bodies legally.
Every woman who isnāt raped has had the opportunity to exercise control prior to getting pregnant.
Once you create a new human life itās not just āher bodyā thatās involved anymore and at that point we as a society get to determine when abortion is or isnāt legal.
Does it work?
Why these two exceptions?
