The answer always depends on the situation.
Unborn do not have rights.
No, the law gets to make that determination. We are a country of laws, not feelings.
Brilliant observation. How did you divine that all on your own?
No, the law gets to make that determination. We are a country of laws, not feelings.
And the law disagrees with your feelings on the matter
If that were true all laws restricting abortion would be unconstitutional which of course they are not.
The law agrees with most of my views on abortion.
Fact, not opinion.
Wars defending your homeland? No, they are not objectionable.
Wars of aggression for the purpose of expansionism and/or colonialism, they are not justifiable.
Murder is the unjustified taking of a human life. Killing in self defense or the defense of others is completely justifiable.
There is no justification for intentional killing of another human being except in defense of self and others.
All you are doing is babbling.
I’m glad you acknowledge that abortion is justifiable.
In some cases it absolutely is, in others it is not.
So you continue to show that you want to not only control women’s bodies, but you want to control when and why people have sex…based on YOUR beliefs.
I do not know where you are getting that. I have merely pointed out that women make many choices along the way to the choice of abortion. Earlier choices led to the later one.
I am certain you understand that no one is making those choices but the woman herself. Or, do you consider her robotic at those stages? I certainly do not.
On the other hand…do men who want sex want to control women’s choice in that regard? “Come on, let’s do it, it will be fun, we will enjoy it. And if a pregnancy results, I am prepared to support you through the pregnancy, pay any medical bills, and then support the child for eighteen years, perhaps even through college.” Now, if a woman says, “No worries, I’ll just have an abortion,” that’s one thing. But how often does the man offer her the choice?
The law agrees with most of my views on abortion.
Does the law allow for the mother to make the decision or doesn’t it?
In some cases it absolutely is, in others it is not.
True. In 99.9% of cases it is, and the others it is not.
but you want to control when and why people have sex…based on YOUR beliefs.
No. I am pointing out there are options. Isn’t that what this discussion is about? Options? Or are you saying that women should have sex and abortions based on your beliefs?
It isn’t just “her body”.
There is no justification for taking the life of another human being except through the courts or when acting in self defense or defense of a third party.
Every successful abortion kills at least one human being.
There’s that statist position…“It isn’t just ‘her body’.”
In some cases yes, in some cases no.
Nothing in the Constitution justifies the government controlling a woman’s body.
Everything in the Constitutions supports Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
It’s simply a fact. There are at least two bodies involved and one of them is completely unable to defend itself which is where the state becomes legitimately involved.
No. I am pointing out there are options. Isn’t that what this discussion is about? Options? Or are you saying that women should have sex and abortions based on your beliefs?
What we’re saying is that women should act according to their own beliefs, not yours or mine
Yes I have. We have a right to self defense and defense of third parties recognized in every state and by the federal gov’t which is the basis for the 2nd Amendment.
So, give the fetus a gun since this is an 2nd Amendment issue.