He’s using all kinds of logical fallacies. I’ll bet he hasn’t studied anything about biology (recently), anatomy, physiology, or embryology. He’s just saying “well, it’s the woman’s choice, it’s the woman’s choice and if you don’t agree with me you’re all peasants.”
That’s not what I’m saying. You cant show when consciousness arises in a fetus. You continue to equate “having human dna” to personhood. Then you build strawmen about the argument. Have you ever taken a college course in debating or philosophy ?
There’s a difference between a fetus and a tumor. I’ve already explained it several times in this thread. You act like they are the same thing. They are not.
Have you ever taken a single life science course? When exactly does personhood begin? Tell me.
Theres also a difference between a fetus and a slave. Theres also a difference between a 4 week old fetus and a newborn. Thanks for playing.
A newborn doesn’t really have any consciousness either. So is it okay to abort them too? Many post-born babies are premature. Is it okay to abort them, because they were not carried to term?
When the brain sections that show neurological correlation to cognition and self awareness in born humans begin to form. Now, since you’re a doctor (you took a few college courses) surely you can tell me.
Of course they do. What a bizarre thing to say for someone who has taken embryology courses.
Psychologically speaking, humans don’t show consciousness until they are around 15-24 months old. By your logic, it is okay to kill them. Thanks for playing.
“Human life” without consciousness isnt meaningful beyond biological / naturalistic reductionism. And yes, new borns exhibit signs of consciousness. Young fetuses do not.
Then prove it. Prove that they have self-awareness.
You’re conflating consciousness with awareness that you are a separate entity. Try again.
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On his faculty page, Mr. Singer (professor of Bioethics at Princeton) says: “Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time. So killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living."
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This one states they don’t have self-awareness until 18 months.
I’ll say this. If babies arent conscious until they are 6 months old, it’s even more reason to allow abortions in early term fetus development. But ya keep arguing that newborns have no consciousness that will help!
Which is different than being conscious