According to the media the concerns of half the nation are not important

Other half. Russia.

How is it different?

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YouTube deleted a CSPAN video of explosive senate testimony that details problems in Nevada:

The media is doing its best to bury any real investigation of the allegations.

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And why is that?..Is it based on fact, or is it based on the loser of the election saying beforehand that its rigged if he loses? Basically saying there is no way he can lose unless the other side cheats.

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Those Dominion machines in Maricopa County did a bad job with helping Democrats win since a few of them lost. The GOP Maricopa County Attorney won her race while the Democratic Recorder for Maricopa County lost a very close race to his GOP opponent.

And Maricopa County wasn’t the only Arizona County where Biden improved over Hillary Clinton. Biden also improved over Clinton in Pima County (Tuscon), and improved over Clinton from the northern Arizona Counties of Coconino, Navajo and Apache.

Based on what I know now, they certainly could have hacked some of the voting systems but a sophisticated hacker would be able to cover his tracks.

I suspect that Clinton knew that any serious review of the election procedures would show rigging by big-city Democrats that would dwarf anything that they could pin on Russia. No wonder she was so angry.

If there was no fraud found, its because they were so good at it??..:roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

China dwarfs Russia by any measure. It has ten times the population and ten times the size of the economy. China compared to Russia is about the same as the US compared to Canada.

China directly controls a substantial part of the media and it exerts a huge influence on the multinational corporations that control the rest through control of access to the huge China market.

The events of 2020 have all the earmarks of cyberwarfare and PSYOP attacks against the US coming from China and its allies. A stolen election and installation of a Chinese puppet government means that China has won the war without firing a single shot.

Welcome to the United States of China.

Chinese leaders are even gloating about their success in controlling the American elites as was reported recently by Tucker Carlson:

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The people who think fraudsters are crackpots are the same people who claim that Russians attempted to influence people via coordinated social media campaigns.

This is of course in line with the findings of the Senate Intel Committee:

(U) The Committee found that the IRA’s :lnformation warfare campaign was broad in scope and entailed objectives beyond the result ofthe 2016 presidential election. Further, the Committee’s analysis of the IRA’s activities on social media supports the key
judgments of the January 6, 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment, “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections,” that "Russia’s, goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton,· and harm her electability and potential presidency."5 However, where the Intelligence Community assessed that the Russian government “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him,” the Committee found that IRA social media activity was overtly and almost invariably supportive ofthen-candidate Trump, and to the detriment of Secretary Clinton’s campaign.

But yeah, a bunch of halfwits crying about massive fraud and people who quote our intel community are exactly the same thing.

The whataboutism with this whole thing is gross, but because people are dumb, it works!

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For four years the highest priority for Democrats has been to remove Trump from office by any means available. Allowing some Republican victories keeps some pretense that the election results are legitimate.

Over the last four years Democrats have fantasized about removing Trump by military coup, assassination, and the 25th amendment. They impeached him in a partisan farce and have equated him with a fascist dictator.

Does anyone doubt that there are plenty of Democrats who would happily rig election results to get rid of Trump?

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It doesn’t matter if you can imagine Democrats cheating.

That’s not how this works.

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The solution is to get rid of hackable voting systems and creating greater transparency and accountability in verifying results of elections. Instead the response of Democrats and their media allies have been doing their best to bury evidence of the problems and to prevent examination of the voting systems.

Democrats are already plotting ways to prevent the election of Trump or someone like him. Here is a proposal from CNN that included a video that was later taken down.

The obvious “solution” is that would not require a constitutional amendment is to rig any future elections to assure Democrat victories. That scenario along with a packed Supreme Court eliminates the possibility of another Trump.

Welcome to a one-party dictatorship where elections don’t matter, the Democrat utopia.

It sounds a lot like China; is that a coincidence?

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I have no love for electronic voting machines. I say bring back the big gray machines with the big lever that went “CHUNK” and opened and closed the curtain.

But for that “solution”, you’re going to have to talk to the states.

The rest of your post is just more feelings.

At this stage it’s just a big support group for people who refuse to accept they lost and they won’t get over it, and they’re trying to legitimize their feelings through bogus equivocations.

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It should not be ignored. This is more important than that three year nonsense we spent over Russia saying things on twitter. Go ahead with this election decision, of course. Then investigate what did or did not go wrong with the election process. Guarantee that future elections will be unassailable. Without credibility, the whole system is weakened.
Of particular interest…do mail in ballots to everyone increase the risks of errors…or worse.

I agree with the judges that, if particular votes are not being proven false, then the time to raise questions about the reliability of the system is before the election, not after.

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So Trump was illegitimate for 4 years?

If you want to claim Russia or China are influencing US elections through the use of propaganda on open source global platforms, I’ll agree to that.

And say so what? We do it too and we can’t stop it anyway.

If you want to say there was some cheating, ballot harvesting, double voting in places, I’ll agree to that.

And say there always has been and it won’t change the outcome. Yes, there needs to be a post mortem after every election and improvements looked for. Why would the winners (who are now in power) do that? Elections have consequences.

If you want to claim that somehow somebody threw 7 million votes from Jbiden, I won’t agree to that. At the end of the day, Jbiden won the election. Or more accurately Trump lost it. Because of himself.

All the wishing in the world isn’t going to change what’s going to happen on 1/20/21.

Republicans need to stop crying “FOUL!” and get focused on policy and building for the next one, this one is over.

The funny thing is the republicans may not have lost the election at all, it may just be the Presidency. The least important piece of it all. And all this fraud talk could very easily cause them to lose the most important piece - the Senate.

The whole thing is ripe for the taking. Time to be for something, not against everything.

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The magnitude of the apparent fraud is more than enough to flip the election. Judges and elections officials have used procedural issues to avoid actually reviewing the evidence; it is as if they are corrupt or live in fear of violence and intimidation.

The Democrats and their allies in the media are more than happy to claim that there is no evidence of fraud.

Future elections become irrelevant if one party rigs them impunity. 80% of the voters could vote for the opposition, but 81% will magically vote to keep the one-party dictatorship. That is what has happened in Venezuela.

I expect that we could see decades of puppet governments under the control of Communist China and its allies. There may not be a second chance to fix a broken system and establish confidence in elections.

https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1342962128009920512

The mainstream media and social media is truly the enemy of “we the people” and their sheople troughs have sheoplized a large portion of our country and the world.

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