Abolish the State of the Union Address and return to the practice from Jefferson through Taft

[Safiel]

I did not watch the State of the Union nor the Republican response. I have not watched either for many years.

I can get the “Cliff Notes” version very easily.

Presidents Washington and Adams made their address in person. Starting with his first address in 1801, President Jefferson sent his address to the Senate and House by messenger and each body’s respective reading clerk read it into the record. That practice continued until President Taft’s final address in 1912.

In 1913, President Wilson began the ridiculous dog and pony show we know today.

President Jefferson rightly derided an in person address as monarchial and similar to the King’s Speech from the Throne.

The Constitution requires only that the President provide information on the State of the Union.

The next President should decline to address Congress in person and should resume the Jeffersonian practice of sending his address by message.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

Agreed 100%.

It’ll never happen

[Orygun]

Agreed- its politicking with a forced audience. Get rid of it.

[zantax]

Or maybe I don’t know, actually give facts and statistics on the actual state of the nation instead of yelling at Republicans to get off your lawn.

[johnrandolph]

@Safiel

I did not watch the State of the Union nor the Republican response. I have not watched either for many years.

I can get the “Cliff Notes” version very easily.

Presidents Washington and Adams made their address in person. Starting with his first address in 1801, President Jefferson sent his address to the Senate and House by messenger and each body’s respective reading clerk read it into the record. That practice continued until President Taft’s final address in 1912.

In 1913, President Wilson began the ridiculous dog and pony show we know today.

President Jefferson rightly derided an in person address as monarchial and similar to the King’s Speech from the Throne.

The Constitution requires only that the President provide information on the State of the Union.

The next President should decline to address Congress in person and should resume the Jeffersonian practice of sending his address by message.

No pomp and circumstance? How else will our lords and masters exhibit their exalted positions to the world?

[NickN]

@Safiel

President Jefferson rightly derided an in person address as monarchial and similar to the King’s Speech from the Throne.

And what pray tell do you imagine Thomas Jefferson would opine of the concept of executive orders?

And does this abuse of executive power repulse you even more than the SOTU speeches?

[Safiel]

@NickN

@Safiel

President Jefferson rightly derided an in person address as monarchial and similar to the King’s Speech from the Throne.

And what pray tell do you imagine Thomas Jefferson would opine of the concept of executive orders?

And does this abuse of executive power repulse you even more than the SOTU speeches?

You are bitching at the wrong person.

I have LONG opposed executive branch overreach and opposed it by members of both parties. I have LONG called for retrenching executive power.

You might want to redirect your tirade to somebody on this board who actually supports executive overreach.

[Ben_Natuf]

while i do agree with this mostly, the bigger problem is judicial over reach.

[Smyrna]

Don’t abolish the SOTU…just rename it more accurately…the Brandon comedy show.

[NickN]

@Safiel

I have LONG opposed executive branch overreach and opposed it by members of both parties. I have LONG called for retrenching executive power.

Thanks for clarifying your position to my one simple question.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@NickN

And what pray tell do you imagine Thomas Jefferson would opine of the concept of executive orders?

I’m pretty sure he would say “Oh, I know those. I issued a few, when I was President.”