For things that happened to him in the past, not things that happened to his grandfather.

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Thank you for the information.

That’s pretty disheartening to know active housing discrimination takes place in this day and age.

If and when it does, it’s illegal.

The 1960s are not this day and age.

Here’s what HOAs are about from his link:

Homes in HOA neighborhoods also typically sell for 4% more than similar homes outside of HOAs

I understand.

Except for those seeing racism against white people, we all agree that there is less racism today than at any other time in US history.

The public sector, the laws and regulation system, has been cleaned up and The Promise has been fulfilled since at least 1976. Almost two generations.

I haven’t seen any claims of organizational racism in the private sector in this thread. Corporate America isn’t doing it.

That leaves individuals.

And therein lies the problem. For the story to continue, culprits have to be found. And from the complaints, even individuals who are blatantly racist and acting on it are getting harder and harder to find. We’re at the point where we have to infer by emotion to accuse.

We have to continuously create new culprits in maintain the outrage.

Because it isn’t about ending racism, which is just a tool. It is about hegemony - who has the power to impose their vision and system on everyone else. Or least make theirs dominate.

It is not fair for 13% or 18% of a population to be ignored. Their issues not addressed. They are citizens and in a republican form of government, their issues are must be addressed. Also, rights are individual, so even outside the group they must be listened to.

In a democracy, who is hegemonic? The majority. 51% decides.

In another 25 years or so, not Latino whites will no longer be the majority in this country. Does that mean some other race will be? No. It just means that all other races combined will be - which is a useless bit of information (although it probably terrifies ignorant white people).

Even when that day comes, non-Latino whites will still be the largest single race in this country. Which means in a democracy, looking at race alone, they will still have the hegemony, they just need a small alliance to get to 51%. Another useless bit of information.

Because as we know, ā€œwhite peopleā€ are very divided. They are in no way monolithic any more than any other racial group. Which means every racial group needs alliances already.

It seems to me that race is the most useless criteria to divide ourselves over of them all. Yet somehow we have allowed the pols, media, etc to do just that.

Republicans are horrible at controlling this narrative. They not only allow democrats to accuse them of racism at every turn, they often help the dems do it. It’s insane. Republicans have thrown up their hands when it comes to culture generators, just given up. And when they do find someone willing to push back, they are so bombastic it gets drowned out.

In this country today, there is no one being institutionally oppressed because of their identity. But we certainly believe there are.

We’re being manipulated.

There are always going to be culture conflicts at the point of contact. Especially as individuals. But it isn’t racism and it is very seldom collective.

We have a policing problem in this country. We have drifted so far from the anchor that we don’t even remember what the anchor looks like. Yet we allowed them to make it a race thing.

We have an education problem in this country. We are raising generations of young people who know so much that just isn’t so. Which of course will facilitate further manipulation.

We are in the process of returning to the days of convincing people to be ashamed of their skin color. It’s the same thing as it was, just a different color. Always seeking to diminish, to lessen, based on race. It seems pathological. Maybe we’re doomed to it.

And we have made culture a code word for race and racism. It wasn’t an accident.

Races are not incompatible, cultures are or can be.

Alliances formed on skin color won’t work, those based on shared culture will. See why they try to keep us divided by race? And we allow them to do it.

We…the People, united in the demand for respect and securing of our rights by a government constituted solely for that purpose must certainly terrify the pols.

Imagine if you will, the police brutality protests (not riots) if MAGA had joined them peacefully instead of ā€œcounter-protesting.ā€

That should have been the one. We should have been saying Daniel Shaver right along side George Floyd. Instead…

There are others.

We even managed to make a pandemic virus racial. Astounding.

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Aren’t corporations ran by individuals? Any and all institutional racist was built and maintained by individuals.

Blatant racism is not what I am worried about. That’s easy and most sensible people would agree on it when they see it.

I’m worried about the silent racism. Racism is like a virus in this country. It never goes away it just mutates to be undetectable by our latest standards. Just look at history… when slavery was abolished… the power structure found different ways to oppress. If anyone complained during reconstruction the answer was ā€œat least you are no longer a slaveā€.

When during Jim Crow, we complained about unfunded schools and wanted to integrate with White well funded schools… the answer was ā€œwell at least you have a schoolā€.

I could go on and on but you get the picture. There is definitely less blatant racism today but the silent racism (or implicit bias) is still a problem.

Define ā€œinstitutionallyā€ and ā€œoppressedā€ in your context.

You are walking the line of my example above…

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Corporations are not being racist in this country. And you don’t get to mix organizations and individuals. Don’t be absurd.

Chic-Fil-A was a good example. Chic-Fil-A was not homophobic. Dan Cathy disagreed with homosexual marriage. There was no Chic-Fil-A policy on it.

Don’t be absurd.

Not one Chic-fil-A employee has been oppressed for homosexuality by the organization. And yes, they hire homosexuals.

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Thank you.

You really think no one detected Jim Crow as racism?

Institution - an established organization or corporation.

Oppressed - the claim that inequality of outcomes is based solely on the cruel use of power by the hegemonic race and based solely on the races.

What line of what example?

Corporations are ran by individuals. They do not exist on their own. I’m shocked this is even up for debate.

Chick-fil-A does not have a policy against homosexual marriage. But one of their leaders does not agree with it.

Does there need to be a Chick-fil-A policy against homosexual marriage for for Individuals who work for Chick-fil-A to discriminate against homosexual marriage?

How would they even know someone’s sexual orientation when interviewing?

Of course they did… but their complaints were met with ā€œat least you aren’t a slaveā€ ā€œbe grateful for what you haveā€ ā€œwell you still have a water fountain, rightā€

Agreed

Disagree. By definition oppression happens to create or keep individuals or groups as unequal. Not all oppression is racial.

No. You don’t get to do that. You don’t get to paint a whole organization because of individuals. Not even CEOs or owners. Either the organization is racist or it is not.

I just said that.

There does for Chic-fil-A as an organization to be discriminatory.

They don’t have to. They have homosexuals in their workforce and they know it. They aren’t doing anything to them because they are homosexual.

It’s funny to watch your positions on Coca Cola and Chic-fil-A bounce back and forth.

Unequal how?

No, not all oppression is racial, but that is the context here. Most oppression is political, by far.

I used the Woke definition of oppression.

I like the term from the 1850’s better. Waked up.

Which is sad, that, 170 years later, many of the same issues regarding race and gender, are still being debated.

Elaborate…

But not for the same reason

Robin DiAngelo all up in Coca Cola ā€œwas an accident, part of a package, voluntary, etc.ā€ Not indicative of the organization.

Dan Cathy speaking out a personal opinion on homosexual marriage is proof of institutional bigotry.

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Robin is not a leader in Cokes organization. The training wasn’t even developed by the organization.

Not the same

I didn’t say it was proof of institutional bigotry. I said Dan is a leader for Chick-fil-A. Leaders set company culture… even if policy cannot be put in place to codify it.

The statement on homosexual marriage wasn’t even developed by the organization. It was not indoctrination for members of the organization. It’s the same.

And Robin Di Angelo’s propaganda is leading the Coca Cola d&i culture. It was rolled out to every employee - codified.

You just stated Cathy’s personal opinion is culture.