A lot of health workers are refusing the vaccine

Axxowiz · 2021-01-12T04:36:16.976Z

I understand in full, and support it in every aspect but maybe in abnormal situations like a global pandemic that has already killed 350,000 in the U.S. while Moderna had the vaccine finished in two days on January 13th 2020, before any cases were reported in America.

Maybe the way drugs are approved in severe cases like the COVID-19 pandemic which I haven’t seen in my lifetime may prompt for a discussion on how these vaccines are approved. Again I am only referring to situations that come around 1-2 times max in a century, everything else in drug approval proceeds as before.

WildRose · 2021-01-12T05:18:08.013Z

Correct. That just means you haven’t had a recent exposure or vaccination.

WildRose · 2021-01-12T05:19:18.262Z

Or like most people you’ve had it a lot more times but just not severe enough for you to realize it.

biggestal99 · 2021-01-12T10:57:06.767Z

SixFoot:

I haven’t had Influenza A or B in over 20 years. All those strains out there, and not one in over 20 years.

For me it’s 40 years and counting, came down with a wicked case of the flu when I was 23.

Really bad. Knocked me out for 2 weeks.

Haven’t had it since then.

Allan

Smyrna · 2021-01-12T11:54:33.600Z

Axxowiz:

“40% of frontline workers in LA county refusing Covid-19 inoculation”.

The wife just told me that many on the front line are young female nurses who haven’t had their babies yet and do not want to put the vaccine in their body prior to having children.

Conservative_frk · 2021-01-12T12:27:11.908Z

The hospital I work at , less than 20% got the vaccine.

biggestal99 · 2021-01-12T12:52:27.711Z

Conservative_frk:

The hospital I work at , less than 20% got the vaccine

Good moves me up the line.

Allan

Conservative_frk · 2021-01-12T12:55:07.105Z

Here, you probably could have already gotten it. Except as of yesterday, we don’t have anymore.

biggestal99 · 2021-01-12T12:57:04.552Z

Conservative_frk:

Here, you probably could have already gotten it. Except as of yesterday, we don’t have anymore.

There is plenty of vaccine here in jersey…

Allan

Toll_Collector · 2021-01-12T12:58:34.108Z

Janet_Miller:

Oh absolutely, unless they can legitimately claim allergy to a component of the vaccine in question, or immuno suppression therapy, for example, if they had autoimmune disorder like M S. In those instances, a mask should do.

Refusal to do either—they should be careful the door doesn’t hit them in the ass on the way out.

Hold on for one second here. A mask should do? Then why bother with the vaccine if a mask is just as good? What’s the reason they should be fired again? Because they’re putting other people at risk, right? So if that’s the case, why should any excuse allow you to continue working there? Sounds contradictory to me. But then again, I’m thinking as a long time member of unions. Non union work places aren’t required to make sense.

Conservative_frk · 2021-01-12T13:01:28.427Z

Up until yesterday I thought there was plenty in Oklahoma too. Probably our punishment for being red. Lol

biggestal99 · 2021-01-12T13:28:32.269Z

Conservative_frk:

Up until yesterday I thought there was plenty in Oklahoma too. Probably our punishment for being red. Lol

They have plenty of vaccine, holding back for the second shot most likely…

Allan

EternalVigilance · 2021-01-12T16:09:27.531Z

biggestal99:

They have plenty of vaccine, holding back for the second shot most likely…

That’s what my mother in North Texas was told. They pull two for every dosage to make sure the follow-ups can be administered correctly.

Janet_Miller · 2021-01-12T18:30:44.326Z

“A mask should do”?

If someone cannot receive the vaccine due to

allergy to one or more components, or

immune suppression, as chemo for cancer does as well as treatment for autoimmune disorders like multiple sclerosis.

IIRC the state of Rhode Island requires choice of either a flu shot or wearing of a mask. A nurse, when this law was newer, got fired due to refusal to do either.

And health care workers like nurses, physicians, physical therapists etc. having a lot of close contact with patients should be required to either get a vaccine or wear a mask. They aren’t workers with only brief in person contact, but, especially in institutional settings, are spending more time with patients, including those more likely to experience poor outcome from flu & COVID 19.

Axxowiz · 2021-01-12T19:58:34.445Z

I understand the fear, I am not for making people do things they don’t want but we don’t even know what being infected with the virus has on child birth or pregnancy it’s all in the grey.

Axxowiz · 2021-01-12T20:01:24.571Z

They are having to throw away a lot of the vaccines because of either refusal or having a difficult time locating them.

My father-in-law who receive the shot said they called and made an appointment for the whole office which is a better way and showed up and gave it to the people who wanted it and didnt the others.

From my understanding of the vaccines out now they come in lots of either 500 or 1000 and the way they have to be stored they are having to throw away a lot of vaccines.

The jnj vaccine will be coming out in February and it would solve the problem it just needs to be refrigerated, unfortunately as of now it’s not out and we don’t know efficacy rate of it yet.

WildRose · 2021-01-12T22:06:47.439Z

That’s how it should be done. We need to see every point of distribution in the country complaining they are out and wanting more.

WildRose · 2021-01-12T22:08:15.572Z

Axxowiz:

and the way they have to be stored they are having to throw away a lot of vaccines.

There is absolutely no excuse for that, it’s an egregious level of malfeasance when that happens.

Even once thawed it keeps for 10 days under refrigeration.

If they can’t get it all out they should be getting it to other locations that can.

WildRose · 2021-01-12T22:09:19.682Z

Those who can’t or won’t take the vaccine should be barred from any patient contact and replaced.

altair1013 · 2021-01-12T22:13:11.872Z

If this is the case, they need to move on and offer it to the general public as soon as possible. As a survivor of the Rona, nearly everyone who gets is will regret not getting the vaccine. Two days of hell, followed by ten days of suck and several weeks or even months of Rona hangover. Get the shot. You don’t want this ■■■■