A Country That Got Corona Response Right

WuWei · 2020-05-05T18:30:08.609Z

WCD9973:

WildRose:

Higher population density and density of cell towers pretty well guarantees it would be much more effective.

How many Americans would acede to such an invasion of privacy?

I doubt many, we still have a culture that overall respects and protects individual rights and our Constitutional protections, while weakened by the courts over time still exist.

There will be thousands of civil rights law firms chomping at the bit to fight such impositions.

-MILLIONS of Americans willfully download google maps and allows tracking of their phone simply to enjoy real time traffic info on their drive. That happens today. Right now. And while some are concern, more then enough Americans are ok with the trade off.

I would venture a guess that if MILLIONS do it simply for traffic updates, even more Americans would allow the cell contract tracing to be alerted if they came in contact with anyone else that tested positive.

Has anybody asked?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T18:50:35.441Z

They are about to.
Google and apple just released the code for developers make apps with it. They will not allow location data (which, i think, is a mistake).

TechCrunch – 4 May 20

Apple and Google release sample code, UI and detailed policies for COVID-19...

Apple and Google are providing additional resources for developers working with the first version of their Exposure Notification API, the development tools the companies have created and are working on in order to provide a cross-platform way for...

Est. reading time: 4 minutes

WuWei · 2020-05-05T18:51:17.442Z

WCD9973:

They are about to.
Google and apple just released the code for developers make apps with it. They will not allow location data (which, i think, is a mistake).

Apple and Google release sample code, UI and detailed policies for COVID-19 exposure-notification apps | TechCrunch

Who is? The private sector?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T18:52:01.895Z

WuWei:

Who is? The private sector?

Read the article.

WuWei · 2020-05-05T18:53:38.036Z

WCD9973:

WuWei:

Who is? The private sector?

Read the article.

No. I thought it wouldn’t work if it is optional. Everybody has to do it.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T18:54:06.188Z

WuWei:

No. I thought it wouldn’t work if it is optional. Everybody has to do it.

Who told you that?

WuWei · 2020-05-05T18:55:03.859Z

WCD9973:

WuWei:

No. I thought it wouldn’t work if it is optional. Everybody has to do it.

Who told you that?

Panicky.

How is it going to work if everybody doesn’t play?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T18:56:44.793Z

WuWei:

Panicky.

How is it going to work if everybody doesn’t play?

How does heard immunity work? Does EVERYONE have to be immune?
How does traffic updates work. Does EVERYONE on the road need to have the apps loaded?

Stop thinking everything is all or nothing.

WuWei · 2020-05-05T18:57:27.805Z

WCD9973:

WuWei:

Panicky.

How is it going to work if everybody doesn’t play?

How does heard immunity work? Does EVERYONE have to be immune?
How does traffic updates work. Does EVERYONE on the road need to have the apps loaded?

Stop thinking everything is all or nothing.

Ok, if you say so. I won’t be participating.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T18:58:16.793Z

WuWei:

Ok, if you say so. I won’t be participating.

ok. I’ll let Google and Apple know.
Curious - Do you use Google Maps?

WuWei · 2020-05-05T19:02:35.788Z

WCD9973:

WuWei:

Ok, if you say so. I won’t be participating.

ok. I’ll let Google and Apple know.
Curious - Do you use Google Maps?

Sometimes. Why?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T19:05:01.978Z

WuWei:

Sometimes. Why?

Because it collects way more data about where you have been then this will.

WuWei · 2020-05-05T19:10:42.199Z

WCD9973:

WuWei:

Sometimes. Why?

Because it collects way more data about where you have been then this will.

I don’t care.

WildRose · 2020-05-05T20:09:44.143Z

How many of them do so with the knowledge the gov’t can track them without warrant?

this is a completely different form of tracking, Big Brother on steroids.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T20:15:54.717Z

WildRose:

How many of them do so with the knowledge the gov’t can track them without warrant?

this is a completely different form of tracking, Big Brother on steroids.

Nope. Read the article i posted. To use the API the Government agency is not allowed to use or access the location data at all.

RTchoke · 2020-05-05T20:37:09.399Z

And you believe that?

WildRose · 2020-05-05T20:40:24.131Z

So how are they tracking people via phone?

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T20:44:42.470Z

WildRose:

So how are they tracking people via phone?

Seriously. Read the article.
Its not about location tracking. Its contact tracing. Meaning its sends a digital handshake via blue tooth to anyone you are close to that also has the app. If anyone with the app tests positive the health agency marks in the app they tested positive, and it sends a alert to anyone it had a digital handshake with in the past 14 days.
That person gets a alert that says “You have been exposed on this date” and to self quarantine and get tested if symptoms develop.

At least that is the goal.
Here is example of how it could lool.

WIRED – 4 May 20

Google and Apple Reveal How Covid-19 Alert Apps Might Look

As contact tracing plans firm up, the tech giants are sharing new details for their framework—and a potential app interface.

WCD9973 · 2020-05-05T20:46:45.489Z

RTchoke:

And you believe that?

I knew someone would say that and its such a silly argument.
Do you believe government only tracks your cell phone location with a warrant?
If you do believe that then why wouldn’t you believe this.
And if you DON’T believe that -then it doesn’t matter since they have the location anyway.

RTchoke · 2020-05-05T21:07:27.868Z

Whatever helps you feel better.

Remember to stay afraid and indoors. Your government thanks you for your obedience.