6 atlanta cops charged with pulling 2 black students from their car

WildRose · 2020-06-03T13:11:58.761Z

Of course not. This is a story designed to gin up outrage and entirely politically motivated with no attempt to actually inform the reader as to just what happened in this incident.

Guvnah · 2020-06-03T13:12:53.039Z

conan:

We don’t know what happen prior. I do know majors and police will do anything to placate the radical left-wing extremist ATM.

Had the Atlanta authorities not acted quickly, the rioting nationwide would have doubled. Inaction by the Minneapolis authorities regarding the Floyd killing was impetus aplenty to foment demonstrations calling for justice. Minneapolis should have charged at least the one cop immediately. By the time they finally did that, it was too late.

To me, charging the guys with a crime is NOT convicting them. And it is NOT an indication that the DA has clear proof of the crime.

WildRose · 2020-06-03T13:16:11.837Z

There wasn’t a lack of action in Minnesota, that’s just what the media is feeding us.

They were fired immediately and the case was immediately turned over to the DA. Before they could even come up with appropriate charges an autopsy had to be done and witness statements taken.

This isn’t as cut and dried as a shooting.

The police did their job as did the DA and the GJ.

Even if they had been immediately arrested and charged (not proper in a situation like this) the end result we’re seeing would be the same because this was never really about Floyd’s death, his death was just an excuse to riot.

Guvnah · 2020-06-03T13:18:49.395Z

WildRose:

There wasn’t a lack of action in Minnesota, that’s just what the media is feeding us.

No doubt about it. My statement was in the context of current public sentiments.

The media are winning.

WildRose:

This isn’t as cut and dried as a shooting.

Again, within today’s context. I was agreeing with Conan that the charges had to be filed quickly to placate the anarchists.

Guvnah · 2020-06-03T13:23:28.767Z

My gut impression (absent a ton of necessary info) is that the occupants of this one car among many was singled out for a reason. And I do NOT believe the reason was “driving while black”. Occupants resisted. Cops escalated beyond what was warranted. And no body cam or other evidence is available to validate the initial reason for the LEO engagement of this car.

Tensions are high coast to coast, and escalation of engagements is commonplace – whether it’s a physical escalation (as occurred in this incident) or just verbal escalation such as we see in every thread and sub-discussion all across this board.

WildRose · 2020-06-03T13:27:24.300Z

To do so however would be improper. You can’t charge them without an actual cause of death other than the charge that was finally leveled.

As far as I’m concerned it should be a first degree murder case with depraved indifference as an aggravating factor along with the duration of time along with the fact at least one of the other officers twice tried to get him to get off the guys neck and turn him on his side and/or put him in the car.

To me this shows both a depraved heart and premeditation.

However the way the legal system works you don’t charge people in order to placate a mob, to do so is the opposite of seeking justice.

No matter how many noses are out of joint this was handled appropriately from the start because from a legal standpoint without a clear cause of death you can’t charge him/them with murder.

These people aren’t wanting justice for this man’s death, they want vengeance for both real and fabricated offenses against the entire African Race.

WildRose · 2020-06-03T13:28:37.131Z

We haven’t seen the video but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Police never do and never will make all the evidence available quickly or fully prior to trial.

WuWei · 2020-06-03T15:12:52.408Z

Guvnah:

conan:

If true then I’ll ask why single out that vehicle when there were other vehicles on the road.

It was the only one with blacks in it.

Or hot girls.

WuWei · 2020-06-03T15:13:10.485Z

WildRose:

We haven’t seen the video but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Police never do and never will make all the evidence available quickly or fully prior to trial.

Why not?

TriggerWarning · 2020-06-03T15:22:02.212Z

WuWei:

The city can make a deal to put camera battery chargers in every Dunkin and Krispy Kreme. Problem solved.

Actually it is easily solved. Spare batteries in the police station. You come in once a shift. Clock out (not for pay, for service) and change batteries, clock in and go back out.

We have chargers in our cars. Getting them charged up isn’t the issue. Its the fact that we can’t record while charging. Alex wants ones that always record and we can’t turn off. The battery necessary for this does not exist in a small compact size, if it did cell phones would have them which is why cell phone companies would pay you billions if you developed one.

You also can’t swap batteries. Can you swap batteries in your cell phone? No you can’t in ordinary cell phones. Most body cams come in one of two styles. An all in one unit which is the lens, battery, and controls. The whole thing is mounted to your vest and the whole thing comes off and into the charger. There is no separate battery. The other style is exactly the same as what I just mentioned except the lens a separate part and connects to the control pack / battery by a cord so you can wear this part on your belt. The whole thing comes off to charge.

thinkingman · 2020-06-03T15:37:45.519Z

Guvnah:

thinkingman:

heres a good example of irresponsible media

Nobody needs look far to find such examples.

Anyone unable to admit it is just lying to himself.

they literally are dangerous to the country.

Bigjohn · 2020-06-03T15:44:32.148Z

I am sure a jury of their peers will see the entire video. At this point is there any need for the normal Joe Public to see it at this stage?

DougBH · 2020-06-03T15:51:36.466Z

Bigjohn:

I am sure a jury of their peers will see the entire video. At this point is there any need for the normal Joe Public to see it at this stage?

If the event itself is news, then anything that helps explain it in detail is part of that news. So…yes.

WuWei · 2020-06-03T16:14:22.336Z

TriggerWarning:

Its the fact that we can’t record while charging.

That’s why you switch them out at the house.

WuWei · 2020-06-03T16:15:01.218Z

TriggerWarning:

You also can’t swap batteries.

Manufacturers can fix that. Or you can switch the whole system in the house.

I will settle for in public on. In the house unless jailing or at the public desk, I don’t care.

TriggerWarning · 2020-06-03T16:55:50.092Z

WuWei:

That’s why you switch them out at the house.

With what? Departments right now struggle to equip all their officers with bodycams as it is. My dept just this year, six years after we started doing bodcams, finally have enough so each patrol officer has one. Detectives still don’t. Now you want to double it? They are very expensive and prone to only last a few years (I’m on my 3rd since 2014).

WuWei · 2020-06-03T17:07:07.677Z

TriggerWarning:

WuWei:

That’s why you switch them out at the house.

With what? Departments right now struggle to equip all their officers with bodycams as it is. My dept just this year, six years after we started doing bodcams, finally have enough so each patrol officer has one. Detectives still don’t. Now you want to double it? They are very expensive and prone to only last a few years (I’m on my 3rd since 2014).

Oh we’ll buy them for you.

conan · 2020-06-03T17:07:51.734Z

And now with em having to replace equipment cars etc. It’s going to be while before they get anymore.

Not sure how insurance works for burnt out vehicles.

TriggerWarning · 2020-06-03T21:58:16.003Z

WuWei:

Oh we’ll buy them for you.

Yeah right. You go ahead and try to get a budget increase for the cops. When it actually comes to funding police departments you see liberals and conservatives unite in opposition - liberals because they hate cops and conservatives because they are unwilling to pay the taxes and many hate cops as well. Even when there isn’t controversy against the police no one is ever willing to fund us to give us the training and equipment we need.

WuWei · 2020-06-03T22:09:38.603Z

TriggerWarning:

WuWei:

Oh we’ll buy them for you.

Yeah right. You go ahead and try to get a budget increase for the cops. When it actually comes to funding police departments you see liberals and conservatives unite in opposition - liberals because they hate cops and conservatives because they are unwilling to pay the taxes and many hate cops as well. Even when there isn’t controversy against the police no one is ever willing to fund us to give us the training and equipment we need.

Federal funds. Like the tanks and stuff.