47% of NJ's Latest COVID hospitalizations are fully vaccinated

Ben_Natuf · 2021-12-16T23:01:16.317Z

great, now of the 69% “vaccinated”, how many were vaccinated more than 6 months ago? I will hazzard a guess here and say almost all of the 47% were vaccinated more than 6 months ago meaning none of them had active antibodies and we’ve known for a long time that once the antibodies wear off you have essentially the same risk as unvaccinated for contracting covid. you do have a greater chance for a mild case though.

JimmyC · 2021-12-16T23:04:18.059Z

Right, that’s why it’s important to get your booster shot.

Toll_Collector · 2021-12-16T23:06:53.481Z

JimmyC:

When the vaccinated start dying at an alarming rate I will start worrying.

As time goes on more and more people I know, and workplaces that I am aware of, are catching Covid. Just recently an outbreak of the vaccinated in my sister in law’s office. She’s an RN in the tech department. Only one person has died. So from my POV a large majority are recovering whether they are vaccinated or not.

amadeus · 2021-12-16T23:08:32.721Z

Toll_Collector:

JimmyC:

When the vaccinated start dying at an alarming rate I will start worrying.

As time goes on more and more people I know, and workplaces that I am aware of, are catching Covid. Just recently an outbreak of the vaccinated in my sister in law’s office. She’s an RN in the tech department. Only one person has died. So from my POV a large majority are recovering whether they are vaccinated or not.

Your conclusion is not supported by your anecdote.

Toll_Collector · 2021-12-16T23:11:04.318Z

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

This is looking more like quarterly. And what damaging material is in a flu shot? Covid spikes damage organs and blood vessels.

Well… that is just making stuff up.

You don’t think covid protein spikes damage organs and blood vessels?

Did you hear that from a medical professional ? i.e. did your doctor say that ?

Will peer reviewed work?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/

That is an in vitro study… not in vivo… and… you get far more exposure to the spike protein with an actual infection than with vaccination.

The risk of vaccination is far lower.

But not risk free.

Nothing is.

But less risk from the vaccination than with an infection… with an infection you get… well… sick and can possibly die.

LIke I said, I don’t judge two months of protection from infection worth the risk. Remove pharma’s liability immunity and I will reconsider. But even then I would probably wait for the new omicron vaccine as opposed to the played-out booster.

That’s what I plan to do as well. BTW, has this new variant been killing anyone?

zantax · 2021-12-16T23:12:10.299Z

No but South Africans aren’t generally nearly as fat as Americans.

W_and_C · 2021-12-16T23:21:18.697Z

Toll_Collector:

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

zantax:

Jezcoe:

zantax:

This is looking more like quarterly. And what damaging material is in a flu shot? Covid spikes damage organs and blood vessels.

Well… that is just making stuff up.

You don’t think covid protein spikes damage organs and blood vessels?

Did you hear that from a medical professional ? i.e. did your doctor say that ?

Will peer reviewed work?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/

That is an in vitro study… not in vivo… and… you get far more exposure to the spike protein with an actual infection than with vaccination.

The risk of vaccination is far lower.

But not risk free.

Nothing is.

But less risk from the vaccination than with an infection… with an infection you get… well… sick and can possibly die.

LIke I said, I don’t judge two months of protection from infection worth the risk. Remove pharma’s liability immunity and I will reconsider. But even then I would probably wait for the new omicron vaccine as opposed to the played-out booster.

That’s what I plan to do as well. BTW, has this new variant been killing anyone?

So far OJ Simpson has killed twice as many people as Omicron.

enki · 2021-12-16T23:22:37.387Z

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So far OJ Simpson has killed twice as many people as Omicron.

half as many

bbc.com

Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

People should set aside the idea Omicron is a milder variant and get their booster jab, the PM says.

zantax · 2021-12-16T23:23:01.591Z

With not of.

W_and_C · 2021-12-16T23:23:04.920Z

enki:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So far OJ Simpson has killed twice as many people as Omicron.

half as many

Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

My math skills may be rusty but I thought that 2/1 = 2 ?

enki · 2021-12-16T23:23:49.947Z

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

enki:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So far OJ Simpson has killed twice as many people as Omicron.

half as many

Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

My math skills may be rusty but I thought that 2/1 = 2 ?

ah, you’re right. my maths is on holiday.

Ben_Natuf · 2021-12-16T23:27:53.140Z

no, its not. we have memory cells. if 47% of hospitalized are vaxxed, then 80% of the undetected cases likely are also

Toll_Collector · 2021-12-16T23:41:19.259Z

enki:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

So far OJ Simpson has killed twice as many people as Omicron.

half as many

Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

I notice that there’s no info on the person that died.

bigtwnvin · 2021-12-17T00:07:30.718Z

I got stuck in Feb ‘21 with the Pfiz and again in April.
The booster made me feel like ■■■■ for 4 days. Now they’re bringing out another booster? I’m not a spring chicken anymore but at age 70 you know they’ll br gunning for me to get another jab. This is bull ■■■■■

W_and_C · 2021-12-17T00:13:26.758Z

bigtwnvin:

I got stuck in Feb ‘21 with the Pfiz and again in April.
The booster made me feel like ■■■■ for 4 days. Now they’re bringing out another booster? I’m not a spring chicken anymore but at age 70 you know they’ll br gunning for me to get another jab. This is bull ■■■■■

Your first two doses were two months apart ? Pfizer should be 3 weeks. Unless you’re saying you had a booster in April after two initial doses ?

bigtwnvin · 2021-12-17T00:16:10.073Z

Hold on lemme check the Vax passport

bigtwnvin · 2021-12-17T00:17:32.280Z

My bad
2/12
3/6
Boosted Nov 12

W_and_C · 2021-12-17T00:17:53.290Z

bigtwnvin:

My bad
2/12
3/6
Boosted Nov 12

Oh ya, then you should be good to go for a while (hopefully)

Bill.in.PA · 2021-12-17T00:23:43.848Z

There is still no word from the UK government about the death with Omicron.

amadeus · 2021-12-17T01:05:16.449Z

bigtwnvin:

I got stuck in Feb ‘21 with the Pfiz and again in April.
The booster made me feel like ■■■■ for 4 days. Now they’re bringing out another booster? I’m not a spring chicken anymore but at age 70 you know they’ll br gunning for me to get another jab. This is bull ■■■■■

Who is bringing out another booster?