47% of NJ's Latest COVID hospitalizations are fully vaccinated

[FreeAndClear]

@PAmoderate37

@Call_me_Ishmael

Remember … we discussed “populist”. Some populists are on the right and will support it if it is state based and not federal and not mandatory.

If Donald Trump is President and wants either federally, about 35% of this County will demand it and another 35% will want it but won’t want to give Trump credit for it.

This. Every day and twice on Sunday

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@WuWei

Did you read that?

Yes 1 in 10. That’s 10 percent of commies? Socialists?

Populists.

Did you read the reasons given?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

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There is a very thin line between Bernie’s supporters and Trumps and it’s not me who says so. It’s the Bernie supporters who do

They are lunatics. Lunatics would say that as they try to recruit more people into their lunacy. A big big big big big big difference is that they will give the federal government the power to create their utopia. Trump’s supporters won’t.

You probably don’t even appreciate the distinction. Progs often just use the word “government” as though it’s a synonym for “federal government”.

Outside of deregulation nothing about the moderate (i mean moderate) way in which trump governened suggests a shrinking government or that trump wouldn’t given the government more power. i e universal healthcare

Narrative.

And your crystal ball again.

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There is a very thin line between Bernie’s supporters and Trumps and it’s not me who says so. It’s the Bernie supporters who do

They are lunatics. Lunatics would say that as they try to recruit more people into their lunacy. A big big big big big big difference is that they will give the federal government the power to create their utopia. Trump’s supporters won’t.

You probably don’t even appreciate the distinction. Progs often just use the word “government” as though it’s a synonym for “federal government”.

Outside of deregulation nothing about the moderate (i mean moderate) way in which trump governened suggests a shrinking government or that trump wouldn’t given the government more power. i e universal healthcare

Narrative.

Goals. Actual stated and promised goals.

It’s not my narrative that he governed as a moderate. That’s reality. Yes there were certainly right wing swings. Like deregulation but he did govern like a moderate

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There is a very thin line between Bernie’s supporters and Trumps and it’s not me who says so. It’s the Bernie supporters who do

They are lunatics. Lunatics would say that as they try to recruit more people into their lunacy. A big big big big big big difference is that they will give the federal government the power to create their utopia. Trump’s supporters won’t.

You probably don’t even appreciate the distinction. Progs often just use the word “government” as though it’s a synonym for “federal government”.

Outside of deregulation nothing about the moderate (i mean moderate) way in which trump governened suggests a shrinking government or that trump wouldn’t given the government more power. i e universal healthcare

Narrative.

Goals. Actual stated and promised goals.

It’s not my narrative that he governed as a moderate. That’s reality. Yes there were cerrrisnly right wing swings. Like deregulation but he did govern like a moderate

Those words mean something to ideologues. What progs and old timey globalist “conservatives” don’t understand is that we trump supporters only know that we liked how he governed. Call him what you will. He’s been called a liberal and now a moderate in an attempt to dissuade his supporters from supporting him. You are transparent, proggy.

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I am not doing it to dissuade like at all. I am doing to explain what he is to those who support him and to those who oppose him. He is a moderate. Period. He was a dem for years. It shows.

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@FreeAndClear

I am not doing it to dissuade like at all. I am doing to explain what he is to those who support him and to those who oppose him. He is a moderate. Period. He was a dem for years. It shows.

I would not care if you called him a communist. All that matters is how he governed. Ideological labels have been proven to be fluid in popular usage.

“We are what we do”

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Right.

[NJBob]

@WuWei

@Eagle-Keeper

@Bill.in.PA

Or the Omicron variant is just starting to kick in and the vast majority of cases will be fully vaccinated and boosted in few weeks.

The unvaccinated are more likely to already have natural immunity, which appears to be far more effective with Omicron. The vaccines appear to be useless or worse at preventing Omicron infections

Half of the countries cases are coming from just two states - NY & NJ! Two of the most heavily vaccinated states.

Most everything states. Lockdowns, face diapers.

Lockdowns? You really are misinformed.

Face diapers (a silly con term)? Not where I am now (The local pizza/pub).

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@NJBob

@WuWei

@Eagle-Keeper

@Bill.in.PA

Or the Omicron variant is just starting to kick in and the vast majority of cases will be fully vaccinated and boosted in few weeks.

The unvaccinated are more likely to already have natural immunity, which appears to be far more effective with Omicron. The vaccines appear to be useless or worse at preventing Omicron infections

Half of the countries cases are coming from just two states - NY & NJ! Two of the most heavily vaccinated states.

Most everything states. Lockdowns, face diapers.

Lockdowns? You really are misinformed.

Face diapers (a silly con term)? Not where I am now (The local pizza/pub).

New Jersey… just novices in the prog world. Come to New York, padawan.

[NJBob]

Are you in NY?

I lived there much of my life (The Bronx for 6 years and Brooklyn for 22 years).

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Upstate. Yep. Gubnor Prog says masks everywhere.

[NJBob]

She’s an idiot.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@NJBob

She’s an idiot.

She’s a prog.

[Samm]

@Camp

Many of us said the virus would run its course and this looks like the act that gets us the immunity we have repressed for two years.

Pretty much. But I see it slightly differently. It’s like sky diving. Covid is the distance to the ground. Natural immunity is the ground. And the parachute is the vaccine.

Edited to add: (Thanks to @biggestal99 )

[Camp]

OK. I appreciate the vaccines.

The government hubris I can do without.

[WuWei]

[Samm]

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@WuWei

I don’t think you do get it.

Mocking

“Cry more lib”

Mhm. I can explain it again if you want.

Please do. But with clarity.

There was a contingent of posters who argued that it will be over or was over

(1) may of 2020
(2) summer of 2020
(3) after the election cycle of 2020

Some were mocking many were not.

Face it, they were all talking out of their asses. Not one person who said it was over knew anything of the sort. It wasn’t lying though … merely wishful thinking, perhaps motivated by political bent.

On the other hand, those of us who said that the virus is here to stay and that we© are just going to have to adapt to it, may also not know what we are talking about, but we do have history on our side.

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Yes
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[Eagle-Keeper]

@Samm

On the other hand, those of us who said that the virus is here to stay and that we© are just going to have to adapt to it, may also not know what we are talking about, but we do have history on our side.

And those on the Left had Joe “The Virus Ender” Biden on their side! Or so they believed🤣