30 Uttar Pradesh Districts Are Now Covid-Free

Smyrna · 2021-09-23T14:37:04.482Z

toreyj01:

Things to take once a day (QD) while sick:

Zrtec QD
Pepcid QD
Melatonin QD
Multivitamin QD
Baby Aspirin QD

Will make recovery faster, hope you feel better soon.

Thank you. What is “QD”?

DMK · 2021-09-23T14:37:11.259Z

Jezcoe:

You don’t have to have long term data to show the effectiveness of Ivermectin and Covid. It can either be shown to work or not.

There is no good study that shows great effect

So, you dispute the OP?

SixFoot · 2021-09-23T14:38:08.428Z

tnt:

SixFoot:

A vaccine that works so swell, you have to keep getting it over and over and over and over and over again.

It takes 4 polio shots to achieve maximum effectiveness.

That must be why the grape drank was also required decades later. lol

margaretms2 · 2021-09-23T14:38:28.016Z

No one—this is place is free entertainment for procrastination. It’s fascinating.

Smyrna · 2021-09-23T14:39:11.786Z

DMK:

When the virus first came out hand washing was a big deal.

Prior to the virus, antibody resistance was going to be a crisis. Probably still is but it got buried.

Perhaps we should just go back to the basics?

…and so was sterilizing every flat surface but that went out the window.

Jezcoe · 2021-09-23T14:39:37.817Z

DougBH:

Jezcoe:

SixFoot:

Forget the experts, folks, Jezcoe has an opinion on Ivermectin.

I am saying what the experts are saying.

The experts are saying it has not yet been approved for Covid-19 prevention in humans but trials are currently in process. Experts also say if you are given a prescription by your doctor, do not fill it with the kind prepared for horses.

At least, that’s what the fda currently says.
So no they don’t say it works. They don’t say it doesn’t work.

The largest study on Ivermectin that isn’t fraudulent out of McMaster University showed that Ivermectin isn’t useful in treating Covid.

I have doubts that another large trial will show anything different.

Smyrna · 2021-09-23T14:40:03.479Z

Smyrna:

Thank you. What is “QD”?

Never mind…“once a day”.

Jezcoe · 2021-09-23T14:40:28.039Z

DMK:

Jezcoe:

You don’t have to have long term data to show the effectiveness of Ivermectin and Covid. It can either be shown to work or not.

There is no good study that shows great effect

So, you dispute the OP?

Not the part about a massive vaccination program.

toreyj01 · 2021-09-23T14:40:50.929Z

WuWei:

tnt:

WuWei:

That’s horse feathers. You are claiming they are proving a negative?

I’m claiming the studies show the vaccine blocks infections.

They didn’t get infected. That’s a negative.

C’mon Sneaky, we do this all the time in medicine.

In research you have a study group and a control group. You equalize the groups to be identical except for one factor and then you compare them to see if that factor has an influence.

With a confidence interval, meaning it has a strong influence or a weaker one.

The data is fairly compelling in regards to vaccination, there is a strong association that, all else being equal, a vaccinated person will contract COVID less than an unvaccinated person.

The data is also compelling that if the vaccinated person becomes infected, they experience less severe illness and a much lower risk of death.

toreyj01 · 2021-09-23T14:43:00.837Z

WuWei:

tnt:

What they will tell you is, they know from tracking two separate groups living equivalent lives, that the group that got the vaccine became infected X% (depending not eh study) less than the group that got the placebo

A placebo? Are you sure that’s what they did?

You are claiming they injected a placebo into patients who thought they were being vaccinated and then released them into the public in the middle of a catastrophic pandemic of a respiratorially transmitted virus?

Yes, that is what they did. Double blind control trial, that is standard in research. Not only didn’t the patient know, the people giving the injections didn’t know who got the vaccine and who did not.

margaretms2 · 2021-09-23T14:44:05.612Z

DMK:

Jezcoe:

it is an opinion based on what is known about the effectiveness of Ivermectin and Covid.

Okay, why did the opinion change on the Covid vaccine when folks were getting infected by Covid even if they did get the vaxx?

But a vaccine doesn’t 100% stop viral infections. That’s not how they work.

DMK · 2021-09-23T14:44:52.284Z

toreyj01:

Things to take once a day (QD) while sick:

Zrtec QD
Pepcid QD
Melatonin QD
Multivitamin QD
Baby Aspirin QD

Will make recovery faster, hope you feel better soon.

Thank you for the contribution @toreyj01

We really need more of this type of information.

I’d never have known why Melatonin is important or why this cocktail seems to work. BTW, QD is 4 times per day.

margaretms2 · 2021-09-23T14:49:52.686Z

Nope. The history of conservatism begins, in many ways, with revulsion toward the Enlightenment. This is another variation on it.

margaretms2 · 2021-09-23T14:51:41.720Z

toreyj01:

WuWei:

tnt:

What they will tell you is, they know from tracking two separate groups living equivalent lives, that the group that got the vaccine became infected X% (depending not eh study) less than the group that got the placebo

A placebo? Are you sure that’s what they did?

You are claiming they injected a placebo into patients who thought they were being vaccinated and then released them into the public in the middle of a catastrophic pandemic of a respiratorially transmitted virus?

Yes, that is what they did. Double blind control trial, that is standard in research. Not only didn’t the patient know, the people giving the injections didn’t know who got the vaccine and who did not.

This is crazy sorcery!

DMK · 2021-09-23T14:52:13.442Z

toreyj01:

The data is also compelling that if the vaccinated person becomes infected, they experience less severe illness and a much lower risk of death.

Less severe.

If I am vaxxed but get Covid. I don’t get to be treated at a hospital.

I am home and incapacitated for 2-3 weeks.

What will happen to my business in the meantime and the folks under my employ?

Geeze, we have to start focusing on treatments for folks rather than just letting them hang in the wind.

SixFoot · 2021-09-23T14:52:24.686Z

Lib Supremacists: “We’Re EnLiGhTeNeD!”

Natural borne leaders, there.

DMK · 2021-09-23T14:53:16.741Z

margaretms2:

But a vaccine doesn’t 100% stop viral infections. That’s not how they work.

Okay. What about the ones who get the infection. What works for them? Why is that being ignored?

Smyrna · 2021-09-23T14:53:46.172Z

margaretms2:

But a vaccine doesn’t 100% stop viral infections. That’s not how they work.

Well…at first it was preached that Pfizer had a 95% ability to stop viral infections that has now been modified to; lessen the symptoms so that you won’t have to go to the hospital but you’re still infectious so, wear your mask…damn it.

Jezcoe · 2021-09-23T14:54:05.254Z

DMK:

toreyj01:

The data is also compelling that if the vaccinated person becomes infected, they experience less severe illness and a much lower risk of death.

Less severe.

If I am vaxxed but get Covid. I don’t get to be treated at a hospital.

I am home and incapacitated for 2-3 weeks.

What will happen to my business in the meantime and the folks under my employ?

Geeze, we have to start focusing on treatments for folks rather than just letting them hang in the wind.

The treatment regimen that Torey listed is effective at treating the symptoms of Covid.

SixFoot · 2021-09-23T14:54:37.804Z

Smyrna:

margaretms2:

But a vaccine doesn’t 100% stop viral infections. That’s not how they work.

Well…at first it was preached that Pfizer had a 95% ability to stop viral infections that has now been modified to; lessen the symptoms so that you won’t have to go to the hospital but you’re still infectious so, wear your mask.

And now Pfizer has a third shot that will really really protect you this time. Honest!