3,405 died for nothing

Gaius · 2018-05-05T08:57:51.290Z

If the Taliban lays down it’s guns, stops fighting and limits itself to the ballot box that means the Taliban lost.

In Afghanistan, as would expect in any country dominated by tribes and warlords and sects if Islam, no one ever loses 100%

Never, no where in any war does X% of the population does not simply change their mind and stop being, Nazis or monarchists, or racists with a states rights agenda or radical islamists, or Irish nationalists, or lovers of democracy or whatever.

No war has ever ended THAT way. It has never happened.

Gaius · 2018-05-05T09:02:25.095Z

The goal was to turn Afghanista Sweden-like country where every one-time Islamic radical magically decides to respect religioys freedom and endorse 1980s American feminism.

CanadianJudo · 2018-05-05T09:21:15.771Z

so soviet Afghanistan?

Smyrna · 2018-05-05T11:09:36.922Z

Osama was dumped into the ocean and many of his henchmen are dead. AQ has been decimated. Our choices are to continue on and kill everyone who disagrees with our objectives or we can pull out and allow the country to pull itself back together? I say, it’s time to bring our boys home and a job well done.

Roxiebelle · 2018-05-05T11:29:48.159Z

Well the Taliban did have an ally in the Democrat Party of the USA and more US Soldiers died in Afghanistan in the first term of Obama then died during the entire 8years of the Bush Administration. When you are of the liberal mindset to politicize combat to gain power & control then you’re going to lose wars and a lot of US soldiers are going to die, its another danger of the current Democrat Party and a trend started by LBJ!

Illegal_Alien · 2018-05-05T12:24:45.294Z

CanadianJudo,

I believe out goal was also to bring Democracy to the country correct?
So the fact they want to recognize the Taliban as a Legit Party then I think Democracy is working in a way.
So would you rather see the USA just take over the country as a whole and not allow the country to decide the there Democracy?

tnt · 2018-05-05T12:28:21.863Z

Sorry, but in America there is no rule that says you have to serve before you can speak freely.

tnt · 2018-05-05T12:30:48.635Z

thats a ■■■■■■ way to live your life. Thinking that unless your fellow americans serve , they don’t deserve respect.

Also LOL at your support for trump, what with his bone spurs and all. And please don’t bother with your ‘I don’t support him…’ rap. We all can read your posts here. We know you support him blindly.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:31:52.408Z

Safiel:

Opposing any conflict does not, IN ANY WAY, cast aspersions on the honor or gallantry of the men and women fighting it.

Except the civil war.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:35:31.838Z

They left in '02, they weren’t removed.

You’re right about staying for a decade. But allowing them to become a political party is how this almost always ends.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:37:38.705Z

The Taliban is not an international terrorist group.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:38:26.668Z

It’s not a policy failure.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:38:55.289Z

No there haven’t.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:39:54.614Z

What’s different about now?

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:41:03.128Z

Well done. Except for the sigh. Grow up.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:41:27.432Z

Shut up…

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:42:22.399Z

It will be in a year.

FloridaYankee · 2018-05-05T12:43:10.868Z

DougBH:

FloridaYankee:

Are they still harboring the USA’s most wanted terrorist?

These people seem to forget that the reason we went into Afghanistan was that the Al Quaida camps and leaders responsible for the attack on New York were stationed there. We did not demand the removal of the Taliban, we demanded that the Taliban allow us to remove Al Quaida. And we gave them months.
The only alternative to going in would be to 1) allow this to be used as a base for future attacks or 2) level the place the way we did Germany and Japan.
In todays world, we would have been called war criminals…including by many in the US.

Exactly. They forget what the main goal was in the first place.

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:43:46.085Z

LOL stick to your guns, you’re doing great!

WuWei · 2018-05-05T12:49:04.492Z

WildRose:

Stop deflecting and give a straight answer for a change.

Try giving a straight answer for a change if you can.

What was the point of the invasion?

What was the goal?

WildRose:

And abandoning it then would have been a mistake of historic proportions resulting in us just having to go back in eventually against a much better equipped, trained, and hardened enemy in the future.

See Iraq after the pullout as a perfect example.

You said the same thing.