2nd Unite the Right Rallies Slated for Charlottesville and DC

Drawz · 2018-08-13T20:36:14.647Z

Steel-W0LF:

Jezcoe:

Steel-W0LF:

So don’t use the monuments to lionize. Use them to educate.

My opinion is that the localities should have the only say in what does and doesn’t happen to the statues.

It is a Municipal issue, not a State or National one.

I’m much more supportive of this method as well.

But the addition I would make is that if a local community decided to remove a monument then there needs to be a national park type place where they get moved to, not destroyed.

I’m all for not destroying them, but are you saying that you’d want local communities to be required to give up their property to the federal government?

Steel-W0LF · 2018-08-13T20:40:06.001Z

Only if the other option is destroying it. If they want to relocate it on their own that’s fine with me.

Drawz · 2018-08-13T20:46:59.820Z

Steel-W0LF:

Only if the other option is destroying it. If they want to relocate it on their own that’s fine with me.

Seems a little dicey. Any and all statues, or just particular statues? “Cows on Parade” was a thing for a while in Chicago, a bunch of cow statues popped up all around the city, would you have wanted the feds to have paid to have them transported to a national park and set on display?

Steel-W0LF · 2018-08-13T20:48:09.125Z

Ones of historical significance.

Drawz · 2018-08-13T20:49:12.338Z

Steel-W0LF:

Ones of historical significance.

That’s vague. Those cow statues are part of the history of Chicago.

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T20:55:16.155Z

CanadianJudo:

unite the right has nothing to do with “Southern Heritage”.

I don’t care. That’s not the point. If Unite the Right people were the only people there it would matter. Since they weren’t it doesn’t.

M

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T20:58:10.429Z

CanadianJudo:

There is a legit card carrying Nazi running on the GOP ticket.

Anyone can call themselves anything they want to. The GOP is NOT endorsing any Nazi as their candidate and to claim otherwise is wholly disingenuous.

M

Jezcoe · 2018-08-13T20:58:27.258Z

Steel-W0LF:

Jezcoe:

Steel-W0LF:

So don’t use the monuments to lionize. Use them to educate.

My opinion is that the localities should have the only say in what does and doesn’t happen to the statues.

It is a Municipal issue, not a State or National one.

I’m much more supportive of this method as well.

But the addition I would make is that if a local community decided to remove a monument then there needs to be a national park type place where they get moved to, not destroyed.

It it was called the “National Park of Bad Ideas”… then sure.

But past that… it is usually municipal property. They can dispose of it however they wish.

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T21:06:11.880Z

Guntsu:

OR the first “Unite the Right Rally” actually had significant numbers, caused serious injuries, a fatality, and drew ambiguous remarks of “condemnation” from our President.

No it didn’t. These were his remarks and there is NOTHING ambiguous about them:

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides”.

He is VERY CLEAR that he is STRONGLY condemning everyone who came there to do violence for their own reasons. The MEDIA decided that as long as he didn’t JUST condemn the one side he was “ambiguous”. He is TELLING you, however that he doesn’t give anyone who came there to do violence a pass, regardless of what side they were on.

You may not like that he also condemned Antifa and BLM, along with the Nazis and white supremacists, but he is NOT ambiguous.

M

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T21:13:22.278Z

TommyLucchese:

MarkyS:

I hold BOTH groups in contempt, but Antifa is FAR more active today than the Nazis

cough cough

Get that cough checked by a doctor. Then look up the number of rallies and actions by Antifa and by the Nazis in 2018 ALONE.

M

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T21:15:35.626Z

JayJay:

Many of these candidates won Republican primaries.

So I’ve gotten back to you.

And which ones were Nazis who were ENDORSED by the GOP? And which ones CLAIM to be Nazis - Not have a claim made against them by the SPLC?

I could not care LESS who the SPLC claims is a racisty or a hater. They LIE.

M

MarkyS · 2018-08-13T21:24:38.624Z

Tommy-Englander:

MarkyS:

Are you seriously trying to hold a contest?

I hold BOTH groups in contempt, but Antifa is FAR more active today than the Nazis. They just had another destructive rally in Portland within this last few weeks.

They were the ONLY problem in today’s DC rally, for that matter, attacking police and reporters. They traffic in violence at all levels.

M

No I’m not trying to have a contest but you are making out the far left are worse when the number of dead bodies suggests otherwise.
What was the Portland rally about?

I made no such claim about the far left. I said that Antifa was FAR MORE ACTIVE than the Nazis and that is 100% correct. And Antifa traffics in violence at their rallies at EVERY opportunity. It is the stock in trade of Antifa.

There is NO good defense of Antifa. They hurt complete innocents all the time, in their zeal to hurt their foes, and like the KKK before them, they often do it under cover, so as not to own it.

As demonstrated yesterday, their foes are whoever shines a light on them doing wrong. Yesterday it was the police and the reporters.

There is NO good defense of Antifa.

M

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-08-13T21:29:18.116Z

Ha. Democrats are so eager to point out that over decades Democrats morphed and Republicans morphed. But suggest fir a minute that Liberals and Conservatives morphed as well and you will hear how that’s impossible; these ideologies and their monikers are set in stone … the ideologues showing the very same face and expression that they wore 50 years ago… no 100 years ago.

And underneath this lie is the dirty fact that Democrats simply found a new way to enslave people… with economic chains. And in return for the basic sustenance that the Democrat welfare offers, they demand only votes.

coolidge · 2018-08-14T10:32:05.344Z

And you won’t hear a peep because liberals like violence of one specific type of flavor. If it’s Obama telling his minions not to bring a knife to a gun fight, or union cronies with Hoffa Jr. Those acts of violence are tolerated, accepted and encouraged. Of course antifa is right up liberals kind of violence.

NuffSaid · 2018-08-14T12:06:55.978Z

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And you won’t hear a peep because liberals like violence of one specific type of flavor. If it’s Obama telling his minions not to bring a knife to a gun fight, or union cronies with Hoffa Jr. Those acts of violence are tolerated, accepted and encouraged. Of course antifa is right up liberals kind of violence.
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What Antifa did was inexcusable and I hope everyone involved in these attacks are arrested and brought to justice. This is unacceptable behavior. Disgusting.

zeitgeist · 2018-08-19T23:14:22.750Z

I just make fun of you and other liberals, if you didnt notice that
Your lunacy is simply ridiculous and actually comedy for free

mobulis · 2018-08-20T01:55:23.915Z

gooddad409:

Squeal and tap dance all you like but you can’t get around your democrat history.

What was democrat history is now republican present.

Tommy-Englander · 2018-08-20T02:31:25.758Z

I’m ridiculous because I don’t care what colour a persons skin is?

zeitgeist · 2018-08-20T02:34:46.370Z

you are ridiculous becasue of your hysteria regarding ‘white nationalists’ and so on…What should most of Europeans do? Change their colour of skin? Tell it to the Polish, Hungarians, etc that they have to do that, because they dont match to your weird views…

zantax · 2018-08-20T11:31:07.516Z

So people today that use a states rights and individual liberties argument to defend states legalization of marijuana are conservative?