2nd Impeachment Trial of President Trump Has Now Started....Predictions?

TommyLucchese · 2021-02-11T18:45:51.814Z

Jezcoe:

What is most surprising is how spineless some are to condemning it.

Heck… some even support it.

The worst are the ones who make excuses or ignore it altogether

That’s what I mean. My pap for all his flaws got it. Seeing the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts and Father Coughlin growing up will leave an impression on you I guess.

It’s not a coincidence this ■■■■ didn’t come back until the Depression/WW2 generation was mostly dead.

Munimula1 · 2021-02-11T18:45:58.873Z

ohknow35:

Munimula1:

Tommy Tuberville tied Trump to the Capitol attack when he let slip that he told Trump that Pence had been evacuated — and Trump tweeted an attack at his own VP minutes later.

Is that supposed to be damning??

Yes…

Zander · 2021-02-11T18:46:33.237Z

TommyLucchese:

Jezcoe:

What is most surprising is how spineless some are to condemning it.

Heck… some even support it.

The worst are the ones who make excuses or ignore it altogether

That’s what I mean. My pap for all his flaws got it. Seeing the German-American Bund and the Silver Shirts and Father Coughlin growing up will leave an impression on you I guess.

It’s not a coincidence this ■■■■ didn’t come back until the Depression/WW2 generation was mostly dead.

I’ve never thought about that. Intriguing point.

WorldWatcher · 2021-02-11T18:49:24.410Z

WuWei:

Then why delay?

IMHO a couple of reasons…

#1 Trump** was trying to delay Congressional certification of the EV votes so that he could continue to harass state election officials (i.e. GA) to change their certification of the results and/or attempt to get State legislatures to over-rule the election officials and decertify the states results.

#2 Trump** was a path to victory if the Congressional certification of the EV could be delayed or if enough State EV votes were thrown out, that the threshold of 270 EVs was not reached throwing the election to the House of Representatives. If it was thrown to the House, the election isn’t determined by one vote per member, it’s one vote per state delegation. IIRC, the number states held by a GOP (27?) exceeded the number of states held by a DEM majority (23?). Therefore a House vote was expected to go to Trump**.

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Bosun · 2021-02-11T18:49:40.079Z

America first!!!

TommyLucchese · 2021-02-11T18:49:47.690Z

Zander:

I’ve never thought about that. Intriguing point.

My grandpap was in many ways the archetypal FDR Democrat turned Reagan Republican type but he’d have been out on the street with the kids carrying his pistol against obvious fascist marches. He was very pointed in how easily fascism can show up and I thought he was paranoid when I was a kid.

Camp · 2021-02-11T18:52:10.360Z

I don’t think there was enough malfeasance to change the result.

I would appreciate a closer examination of the mail in ballot veracity.

Interesting swing for Trump to go from having election veracity examined to potentially removed from consideration.

The impeachment is more of the shadow effort to swing the power to the D establishment and coastal aristocracy IMO.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-11T18:52:20.599Z

WorldWatcher:

WuWei:

Then why delay?

IMHO a couple of reasons…

#1 Trump** was trying to delay Congressional certification of the EV votes so that he could continue to harass state election officials (i.e. GA) to change their certification of the results and/or attempt to get State legislatures to over-rule the election officials and decertify the states results.

#2 Trump** was a path to victory if the Congressional certification of the EV could be delayed or if enough State EV votes were thrown out, that the threshold of 270 EVs was not reached throwing the election to the House of Representatives. If it was thrown to the House, the election isn’t determined by one vote per member, it’s one vote per state delegation. IIRC, the number states held by a GOP (27?) exceeded the number of states held by a DEM majority (23?). Therefore a House vote was expected to go to Trump**.

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And here is the crazy thing about that.

If it would have worked and Trump would have remained President because of some archaic parliamentary procedure that the country wouldn’t fly apart because of that?

He thought that the majority would go… oh well that dastardly Trump fooled us again…

Bonkers.

WuWei · 2021-02-11T18:53:12.178Z

Good analysis.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-11T18:53:56.119Z

Camp:

I don’t think there was enough malfeasance to change the result.

I would appreciate a closer examination of the mail in ballot veracity.

Interesting swing for Trump to go from having election veracity examined to potentially removed from consideration.

The impeachment is more of the shadow effort to swing the power to the D establishment and coastal aristocracy IMO.

It’s not a shadow effort.

It is their duty to do this.

Too bad the GOP are spineless.

Camp · 2021-02-11T18:54:35.813Z

Your results may vary…

WuWei · 2021-02-11T18:55:49.047Z

Camp:

The impeachment is more of the shadow effort to swing the power to the D establishment and coastal aristocracy IMO.

How?
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WuWei · 2021-02-11T18:56:20.477Z

Jezcoe:

It is their duty to do this.

Too bad the GOP are spineless.

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sikofit · 2021-02-11T18:56:29.898Z

Camp:

The impeachment is more of the shadow effort to swing the power to the D establishment and coastal aristocracy IMO.

Swing the power to Democrats? It already did

Jezcoe · 2021-02-11T18:57:24.332Z

Camp:

Your results may vary…

Imagine this scenario with any person other than Trump.

Just pull back and think of these same events happened if Obama lost to Romney.

Just switch the characters around and see what happens.

Camp · 2021-02-11T18:57:32.222Z

Bust up Trump support.

Jezcoe · 2021-02-11T18:58:35.684Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

It is their duty to do this.

Too bad the GOP are spineless.

Never voted for the guy.

Never really supported him.

In hindsight the GOP’s insistence on his impeachment looks cute.

sikofit · 2021-02-11T18:58:43.900Z

Jezcoe:

WorldWatcher:

WuWei:

Then why delay?

IMHO a couple of reasons…

#1 Trump** was trying to delay Congressional certification of the EV votes so that he could continue to harass state election officials (i.e. GA) to change their certification of the results and/or attempt to get State legislatures to over-rule the election officials and decertify the states results.

#2 Trump** was a path to victory if the Congressional certification of the EV could be delayed or if enough State EV votes were thrown out, that the threshold of 270 EVs was not reached throwing the election to the House of Representatives. If it was thrown to the House, the election isn’t determined by one vote per member, it’s one vote per state delegation. IIRC, the number states held by a GOP (27?) exceeded the number of states held by a DEM majority (23?). Therefore a House vote was expected to go to Trump**.

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.WW

And here is the crazy thing about that.

If it would have worked and Trump would have remained President because of some archaic parliamentary procedure that the country wouldn’t fly apart because of that?

He thought that the majority would go… oh well that dastardly Trump fooled us again…

Bonkers.

Jinkies. It really did seem like a bad episode of Scooby-Doo

Camp · 2021-02-11T18:59:23.527Z

More of a longer term effort.

TommyLucchese · 2021-02-11T18:59:32.613Z

Jezcoe:

Never voted for the guy.

Never really supported him.

In hindsight the GOP’s insistence on his impeachment looks cute.

■■■■ I wasn’t even old enough to vote for him and I’m old now.