26 shot in 32 seconds: New details, videos released in Dayton mass shooting

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

So the most modern technology of the day.

Is the AR platform an arm?

Yes the most modern technology of the day the constitution was signed.

Yes the AR is an Arm…

Are all BoR unlimited rights?

That’s not what it says. It just says arms.

Then I have a right to it.

Do they all say “shall not be infringed”?

Why is it so important for you to disarm me?

[WuWei]

@BlueTex

Where is the right to manufactured ammunition in the constitution?

This is sad.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

That’s not what it says. It just says arms.

Then I have a right to it.

Do they all say “shall not be infringed”?

Why is it so important for you to disarm me?

Are 2A rights unlimited?

Are you infringed from owning an arm if we ban AR15s?

[RTchoke]

You won’t stop there.

[PurpnGold]

@RTchoke

You won’t stop there.

Technically you can ban 100 out of 101 types of arms… and still not be in violation of the 2A.

You are not infringed from owning the 1 Arm available. Buy as many as you like.

[RTchoke]

Authoritarians unite!!!

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@BlueTex

@zantax

No. I know it can’t be.

Really? You don’t think carriers can identify encrypted traffic and block it?

It’s super secret.

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

This is sad.

Sad that you can’t think of an argument against it?

[conan]

Yes…it’s infringement. What part about it that you don’t understand?

[BlueTex]

@conan

Yes…it’s infringement. What part about it that you don’t understand?

Let’s hear your legal argument, not your emotional argument…

[TheRedComet]

An arm, as understood by the founders, was any piece of kit commonly carried by infantrymen into battle.

They made no distinction between types of arms. Rifling was the newest technology on the block, offering far superior accuracy to smoothbore muskets. They made no distinction between the two.

Firearms tech was starting to accelerate in the late 18th century. The founders would have known that it would only continue to improve.

If they had intended for there to be classifications of arms then they would have spelled that out in the second amendment. But they didn’t. Instead it says “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

That’s open and cut. If you ban ARs then you are in violation of the second amendment.

[TheRedComet]

Also why do you get to decide what arm a citizen decides to bear?

[conan]

Lets see how smart you are. What does banning ammo do? Now think…it’s a easy one.

[BlueTex]

@TheRedComet

An arm, as understood by the founders, was any piece of kit commonly carried by infantrymen into battle.

They made no distinction between types of arms. Rifling was the newest technology on the block, offering far superior accuracy to smoothbore muskets. They made no distinction between the two.

Firearms tech was starting to accelerate in the late 18th century. The founders would have known that it would only continue to improve.

If they had intended for there to be classifications of arms then they would have spelled that out in the second amendment. But they didn’t. Instead it says “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

That’s open and cut. If you ban ARs then you are in violation of the second amendment.

Last year, in November, the supreme court declined to overturn the Maryland assault rifle ban…

Kolbe v. Hogan
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/17-127.html

It would appear your simplistic understanding is incorrect…

[mobulis]

@WuWei

@BlueTex

@WuWei

Go do your research. Your argument is that of a child.

There is no argument, you have presented no argument that banning manufactured ammunition is unconstitutional… Only emotional arguments…

I don’t need to, but I did anyway. Government has no delegated authority to ban anything. The 2nd Amendment gives me the right to arms, not guns. The 9th and 10th are clear.

Now if you want to make the argument that one of the lib ■■■■ hole states can ban the manufacture of ammunition within that state, go right ahead. I really wish some of them would. The central government does not have the authority to ban a ■■■■■■■ thing.

You are arguing that if you can’t ban the coloring book, you’ll break the crayolas.

Last chance to get right.

Then banning guns is constitutional since you have other arms to use.

[TheRedComet]

The court has been wrong in numerous occasions in relation to the second amendment.

[BlueTex]

@TheRedComet

The court has been wrong in numerous occasions in relation to the second amendment.

In the meantime, assault weapons are banned in 7 states and the courts don’t seem inclined to agree with you…

[TheRedComet]

And those states are in direct violation of the United States constitution.

Also, what the hell is an assault weapon?

[BlueTex]

@TheRedComet

And those states are in direct violation of the United States constitution.

Also, what the hell is an assault weapon?

I’m sure the AG’s are shaking in their boots…

Which states definition would you like?

Maryland?

Subtitle 3. Assault Weapons and Detachable Magazines
§ 4-301. Definitions.
(a) In general. – In this subtitle the following words have the meanings indicated.
(b) Assault long gun. – “Assault long gun” means any assault weapon listed under § 5-101(r)(2) of the Public Safety
Article.
(c) Assault pistol. – “Assault pistol” means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless of the producer or
manufacturer:
(1) AA Arms AP-9 semiautomatic pistol;
(2) Bushmaster semiautomatic pistol;
(3) Claridge HI-TEC semiautomatic pistol;
(4) D Max Industries semiautomatic pistol;
(5) Encom MK-IV, MP-9, or MP-45 semiautomatic pistol;
(6) Heckler and Koch semiautomatic SP-89 pistol;
(7) Holmes MP-83 semiautomatic pistol;
(8) Ingram MAC 10/11 semiautomatic pistol and variations including the Partisan Avenger and the SWD Cobray;
(9) Intratec TEC-9/DC-9 semiautomatic pistol in any centerfire variation;
(10) P.A.W.S. type semiautomatic pistol;
(11) Skorpion semiautomatic pistol;
(12) Spectre double action semiautomatic pistol (Sile, F.I.E., Mitchell);
(13) UZI semiautomatic pistol;
(14) Weaver Arms semiautomatic Nighthawk pistol; or
(15) Wilkinson semiautomatic “Linda” pistol.
(d) Assault weapon. – “Assault weapon” means:
(1) an assault long gun;
(2) an assault pistol; or
(3) a copycat weapon.
(e) Copycat weapon. –
(1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable magazine and has any two of the following:

1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
   (ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
   (iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 29 inches;
   (iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds;
   (v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
   (vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
   (2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault pistol.
   (f) Detachable magazine. – “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily
   from a firearm without requiring disassembly of the firearm action or without the use of a tool, including a bullet or
   cartridge.
   (g) Flash suppressor. – “Flash suppressor” means a device that functions, or is intended to function, to perceptibly
   reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter’s field of vision.

https://www.atf.gov/file/117251/download

[FloridaYankee]

@BlueTex

@zantax

Think whatever you like. You’d be living in a country with green zones.

And how long before these zones run out of ammunition? You think we would allow the continued sale of ammunition? Are you forgetting those emergency powers the president has?

Well, we can’t even subdue Afghanistan which is smaller than some states here.