26 shot in 32 seconds: New details, videos released in Dayton mass shooting

[Guvnah]

@zantax

No, why should it be? Lot’s of other ways to kill people before anyone has time to react.

Boston Marathon bombers killed or injured hundreds in a mere 12 seconds without a gun at all.

[Guvnah]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

… everything but how quickly people can now be slaughtered.

Really?

[WuWei]

You betcha.

[Blackwolf]

…what?

[WuWei]

@Guvnah

@zantax

No, why should it be? Lot’s of other ways to kill people before anyone has time to react.

Boston Marathon bombers killed or injured hundreds in a mere 12 seconds without a gun at all.

Divide 9-11 into seconds.

[Bodecea]

@conan

I can fire a pump shotgun faster then that.

Congrats

[Bodecea]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@Medicswife2002

So you don’t want any replies then? The poster was right.

On the OP, I too am floored at the speed of the killings. I don’t the solutions to any of this but agree it was horrific.

There is no solution. The mass slaughters will continue.

Agreed…now we are the point where bragging rights come out.

[Blackwolf]

@PurpnGold

You can stab 26 people in 32 seconds, in a Walmart?

If we start romanticizing knives the way we do guns the population will be wiped out in a matter of months.

[Bill.in.PA]

Thank goodness he was not driving a truck:

2016 Nice truck attack

[Blackwolf]

@zantax

Any idea how much carnage you could wreak with a gallon of gas and a match in a crowd? Or in a building full of sleeping people? You guys think that just because you deny these kooks a gun, if that was even remotely possible in a country with hundreds of millions of existing guns, that they can’t find another way? Their weapon of choice may be a gun, but their goal is mass casualty counts and if you could deny them their weapon of choice, there are any number of other choices out there.

Any ideas why a gun is chosen so often by these mass murderers, when there’s so many available options?

[zantax]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@Medicswife2002

So you don’t want any replies then? The poster was right.

On the OP, I too am floored at the speed of the killings. I don’t the solutions to any of this but agree it was horrific.

There is no solution. The mass slaughters will continue.

If anyone comes up with a solution to murder, rape, robbery or any of the other horrific crimes that have been around as long as humans have, let us know. No, there are no solutions, if someone wants to kill a bunch of people in an open society they can and will do so. And before you say “but other industrialized countries don’t have the same problem with it that we do”, ever stop to think that is more about how many people they have who want to kill a lot of people than what weapon they happen to choose to do it?

Or just maybe, their weapon of choice is a gun because they are guaranteed a lot more press because the anti-gun left and media will make sure they get all the attention for their real or imagined grievance they could want.

[zantax]

@Blackwolf

@zantax

Any idea how much carnage you could wreak with a gallon of gas and a match in a crowd? Or in a building full of sleeping people? You guys think that just because you deny these kooks a gun, if that was even remotely possible in a country with hundreds of millions of existing guns, that they can’t find another way? Their weapon of choice may be a gun, but their goal is mass casualty counts and if you could deny them their weapon of choice, there are any number of other choices out there.

Any ideas why a gun is chosen so often by these mass murderers, when there’s so many available options?

Sure, a few. Movies glorifying gun play, and guaranteed huge headlines in the press come to mind. You think they will stop wanting to kill people if you could magically make all the guns disappear? Get real. They aren’t mass murderers because they like to shoot guns, they are mass murderers because they want to kill a lot of people to draw attention to themselves and their grievance. I see absolutely no reason they wouldn’t move on to their second weapon of choice if denied their first. Maybe you can explain how that works. “Oh I really, really want to kill four or more people but if I can’t do it with a gun, I’m just not interested any more”. That’s absurd.

[Blackwolf]

@zantax

Sure, a few. Movies glorifying gun play, and guaranteed huge headlines in the press come to mind. You think they will stop wanting to kill people if you could magically make all the guns disappear? Get real. They aren’t mass murderers because they like to shoot guns, they are mass murderers because they want to kill a lot of people to draw attention to themselves and their grievance. I see absolutely no reason they wouldn’t move on to their second weapon of choice if denied their first. Maybe you can explain how that works. “Oh I really, really want to kill four or more people but if I can’t do it with a gun, I’m just not interested any more”. Get real.

You’re being silly. Please quote where I said “These people wouldn’t kill if we just took the guns away.”

Now that’s over with, is it your contention that the only reason these killers choose a firearm over say, a knife is because movies glorify guns and they’ll get more press because of the anti-gun agenda?

[tnt]

@conan

7 total. Mag capacity 6 and one in chamber. Unload in less the 4 second hitting all 7 different targets.

so then someone with a pump shotgun and your incredibly fast pumping skills couldn’t have killed as many as this guy with a semi. They would have to reload after 7.

And thankfully, the police with there super fast…

[Steel-W0LF]

@Blackwolf

@zantax

Sure, a few. Movies glorifying gun play, and guaranteed huge headlines in the press come to mind. You think they will stop wanting to kill people if you could magically make all the guns disappear? Get real. They aren’t mass murderers because they like to shoot guns, they are mass murderers because they want to kill a lot of people to draw attention to themselves and their grievance. I see absolutely no reason they wouldn’t move on to their second weapon of choice if denied their first. Maybe you can explain how that works. “Oh I really, really want to kill four or more people but if I can’t do it with a gun, I’m just not interested any more”. Get real.

You’re being silly. Please quote where I said “These people wouldn’t kill if we just took the guns away.”

Now that’s over with, is it your contention that the only reason these killers choose a firearm over say, a knife is because movies glorify guns and they’ll get more press because of the anti-gun agenda?

While it’s true a firearm is more effective than a knife in most situations. Why is a gun chosen over other items that are more deadly and efficient than a gun?

Because guns are glorified.

[Blackwolf]

@Steel-W0LF

While it’s true a firearm is more effective than a knife in most situations. Why is a gun chosen over other items that are more deadly and efficient than a gun?

Because guns are glorified.

What other items are as deadly and efficient? Do you defend your own hearth and home with these items? Why or why not?

EDIT: Follow up question - Hollywood is the only entity mentioned here that glorifies guns in our culture. Is Hollywood alone in that glorification?

[tnt]

@zantax

Because that is the only other weapon that is readily available. Any idea how much carnage you could wreak with a gallon of gas and a match in a crowd? Or in a building full of sleeping people? You guys think that just because you deny these kooks a gun, if that was even remotely possible in a country with hundreds of millions of existing guns, that they can’t find another way? Their weapon of choice may be a gun, but their goal is mass casualty counts and if you could deny them their weapon of choice, there are any number of other choices out there.

All other industrialized countries have gasoline, knifes, trucks, etc…

Why are we the only ones that kill each other so frequently?

[Vigilante]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

That’s not fast. They didn’t all die.

Faster than a knife would be… faster than a 9mm would be.

How a bout a hammer?

[Vigilante]

@Steel-W0LF

@Blackwolf

@zantax

Sure, a few. Movies glorifying gun play, and guaranteed huge headlines in the press come to mind. You think they will stop wanting to kill people if you could magically make all the guns disappear? Get real. They aren’t mass murderers because they like to shoot guns, they are mass murderers because they want to kill a lot of people to draw attention to themselves and their grievance. I see absolutely no reason they wouldn’t move on to their second weapon of choice if denied their first. Maybe you can explain how that works. “Oh I really, really want to kill four or more people but if I can’t do it with a gun, I’m just not interested any more”. Get real.

You’re being silly. Please quote where I said “These people wouldn’t kill if we just took the guns away.”

Now that’s over with, is it your contention that the only reason these killers choose a firearm over say, a knife is because movies glorify guns and they’ll get more press because of the anti-gun agenda?

While it’s true a firearm is more effective than a knife in most situations. Why is a gun chosen over other items that are more deadly and efficient than a gun?

Because guns are glorified.

Because the are cheap and effective and easy to come by

[Cynic]

Or a walker?