This is a very interesting statistic. It mentions ages 16-64 and that this percentage has doubled from what it was in 1960:
A new study by the Center for Immigration Studies reveals a worrying trend: U.S.-born men, particularly those of working age (16-64), are increasingly leaving the workforce. According to Fox Business, since 1960, the number of native-born men not participating in the labor force has more than doubled, growing from 11.3% to 22.1% in 2024.
The Center for Immigration Studies is a right-wing partisan propaganda shop. This poll is garbage
They provided the data they used. Why don’t you work on that and let us know what’s wrong with the CPS data they used.
And it’s not a “poll”.
Sometimes, (often), it’s better to trust subjective reality. Ask business owners from small business to large, apparently, not enough people want to work and many seek living free and leeching off others and governmental systems. Then, they complain about how hard it is to live free with no power to create anything.
Hate to add to an already dismal outlook but from what I have observed, the most of the ones of that age that are “in the workforce “ are really in the workforce.
Hobosexals. They shack up with someone for free living arrangements.
Again, as was noted it’s not a poll. Here’s something that correlates to their data:
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/why-some-prime-age-men-are-out-of-work/
Show a 10% difference lower from 1954. Don’t suppose you have anything to refute this?
Here’s a 2016 article from Brookings saying pretty much the same thing.
That’s really weird to me. What kind of life is that? Even if you found a sucker.
They have no scruples, remorse or shame. Not sure about you but I was raised in a different world.
I’ve known my share of these losers. My cousin was a drug addict who worked on and off after high school, nothing steady though. Died in his late 30’s. A colleague of mine has a brother, worked on and off but then just decided to live off his mother. He’s approaching 60. I’ve also known other men in similar situations, all of whom were living off their mothers. In most of those situations the father had passed away.
I’m lazy myself. I’ll take a pay cut just for an easier job. But this goes beyond that. As lazy as I am, I’ve never even contemplated that. Or even given it a second thought. Once I turned 18/19 the first thing on my mind was to be self supporting. Then be as lazy as you want.
I lived at home since I was 26!! But was able to live on my own at 19 if I wanted to. At some point, first and foremost you have to cross the barrier between being supported and being able to support yourself. Once you can support yourself, do whatever you want.
My father was a brick, block and stone mason. He and my uncles had a construction company. By the time my brothers, cousins and I were around 13 or 14 we were given jobs around the construction sites and started “learning the trade”.
That was in the early and mid ‘60’s. Our Dad used to say: “you want to eat, you have to work”.
It’s true.
2016
Barely half of 30-year-olds earn more than their parents did at a similar age, a research team found, an enormous decline from the early 1970s when the incomes of nearly all offspring outpaced their parents. Even rapid economic growth won’t do much to reverse the trend.
Economists and sociologists from Stanford, Harvard and the University of California set out to measure the strength of what they define as the American Dream, and found the dream was fading. They identified the income of 30-year-olds starting in 1970, using tax and census data, and compared it with the earnings of their parents when they were about the same age.
In 1970, 92% of American 30-year-olds earned more than their parents did at a similar age, they found. In 2014, that number fell to 51%.
“My parents thought that one thing about America is that their kids could do better than they were able to do,” said Raj Chetty, a prominent Stanford University economist who emigrated from India at age 9 and is part of the research team. “That was important in my parents’ decision to come here.” . . .
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-american-dream-is-fading-and-may-be-very-hard-to-revive-1481218911
I hate lazy and this screams lazy.
Could be “lazy” (video games and social media and not career-oriented, and “party until your 30.”)
Could be that not achieving these milestones is evidence that things are harder now. The boomer handed-down a rotten world
Some things people do when only after they have achieved economic success.
I agree. It sounds like a slow death to me. I can’t imagine not having agency or purpose in life, and just seeking food and entertainment. Slobs!
