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So why is a challenged registration allowed to stand for 18 years with no resolution while they keep getting to submit ballots even if you rationalize they supposedly are not counted?

The fact you find that OK and normal is disturbing.

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because it’s up to the registered voter to defend the challenge, and since the person is dead there’s no one to prove they are a valid voter.

I didn’t say it was okay. I just pointed out how it works. on it’s face, it seems the registration is being used as proof of fraud, probably by those who registered the voter, but there is zero proof that fraud occurred since there is no record of the ballot being accepted and counted. the record ends at vote received.

I’d like to see the ballot status of a valid voter, does it show vote accepted in the database?

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Is that a thing? Or are we actually talking about real registrations that are no longer valid.

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Then a ballot should not be issued at all until resolved, yet it appears a ballot is issued regardless of the challenged status.

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It was sent back and received by the polling place. Wasn’t counted? That’s wonderful news, still fraudulent.

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I guess.

And then there is this local case which isn’t exactly voter fraud but…what is it?

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I said that as well. fortunately it doesn’t affect the election since it can’t be counted.

now, if someone can show that it was counted then we have a much bigger problem. but that hasn’t happened. if the system worked then that’s good.

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I agree, but that’s not how it’s done in MI I guess. Fortunately there appears to be no impact on the election since the vote can’t be counted.

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Thinking about it, without researching it further, so im just guessing: I’ve been able to imagine a bunch of “why fake register” scenarios but they are all pretty much one-offs and I also wouldn’t be surprised if somewhere there was someone getting paid to register voters who made up stuff to get a bonus.

We’re definitely using an antiquated system compared to our options. I want to find a way that lets every state maintain their rights/control, but is more secure than this hodgepodge we got now.

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It’s not clear when this particular ballot came under scrutiny and was challenged. Chicken or the egg?

I concede the possibility that a known contested ballot was the source material for this illustration of fraud. But the fraudulent ballot could also have been discovered and reported by outsiders leading to the challenged tag.

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It’s a mess no matter who wins.

It is too big to litigate.

We are all more like our Central American friends now.

Bravo.

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the outsider would need the registered persons zip code and birthdate. the probability of discovering that seems slim in my opinion.

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There’s no comparison between the two.

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Then I’m glad I debunked my own thread without one of you smarty’s doing it first😁

Seriously, reverse engineering a challenged ballot is the more plausible explanation for the occurrence.

I yield with the caveat that the guy and others like him should be wiped from the database.

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we agree.

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And what bought that on? Who is the one that sowed doubt in our elections?

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“Breaking news” that just so happens to perfectly fit a narrative doesn’t just magically appear on brand new reddit accounts, create a reddit thread that has 0 votes and then spread so virally that it arrives here by dawn. Red Flags on Red Flags.

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Everyone.

Might as well enjoy the show.

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That’s not where I first saw it. That was the second.

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Might be interesting chasing that up the chain to see where it came from then and why. To me it seems like deliberate misinformation. One with a bit of effort in it.