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I have not been negative to any of the audits that have been conducted. I have already said that I will accept all verified evidence of widespread election fraud. And I have waited over 18 months, 60+ court cases and multiple internal and external election audits. And the bottom line is that there has been no credible evidence given so far. So when does this all stop?

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D’Souza succeeded in showing the world credible examples of how law enforcement conduct investigations that often include tracking gps on cell phones in and around active crime scenes.

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And even doing that does not equate to widespread election fraud. Even after the release of this movie there is no credible evidence of election fraud.

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You are not well versed in Tina’s report:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/620c3af99f21b965e2cbef44/t/6239f21179bda53621a515e2/1647964693221/mesa-forensic-report-3-signed+%281%29.pdf

It claims that the state of files on the machine was not caused by human action… that it was not possible and that they had interviewed the staff and ruled out human action.

Meanwhile the DA refutes this directly. Showing with video, interviews and re-enactment that non-fraudulent human action is exactly what created the file arrangement on the machine. And that no votes were lost or manipulated or rendered unverifiable.

There is little to none ambiguity here: either Tina’s report is wrong or the (R) DA is lying about his findings.

I’m a bit disappointed that you are sidestepping the obvious differences between Tina’s claim and the DA. Bringing Dominion’s covert action into the mix does not change things. It’s either Tina wrong or DA wrong.

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And that cell phone data was time stamped and location stamped, there were also 4-million minutes of video.

My understanding is that there were 0, zero, nada, zilch examples of cell phone data correlated to video showing individuals. That there were 0, zero, nada, zilch examples of the cell phone data correlated to video showing the same person dropping off ballots (a) multiple times, and/or (b) at different locations.

One would think that with the cell phone time stamp and location data, that could be easily related to video for a specific dropbox and an exact time.

Funny that it wasn’t.

WW

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World Watcher, you seem like a very bright person. As such, imagining how law enforcement with the Jan 6th riot used both video and gps cell phone tracking to find suspects is not much different here…

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Speaking of sidestepping … engage in why else the FBI (versus merely local officials) is so heavily involved in trying to get back the copy of the hard drive if Peters primary assertion is not so credible.

Like the idiom goes…where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

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It is quite different.

  • In the case of the capitol rioters law enforcement had specific people they wanted to place inside the Capitol building. They had those people’s specific cell phone IDs and so could place them inside the capitol (assuming they were far enough inside the capitol since Google has an uncertainty radius of about 100 feet so cannot pinpoint where someone was).

  • 2000 mules did not ID any specific mule and did not link any video with a specific cell phone tracking location.

  • Due to the uncertainy radious of 100 feet, which TTV used, they cannot pinpoint anyone at a dropbox for certain.

  • Even if they ID’s someone at a dropbox there is no proof that person was dropping off illegally harvested votes

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Many of the people identified on video / gps cell phone technology we’re ultimately rounded up from Jan 6th never entered the Capitol building.

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I am not sidestepping. This is the very first you brought this up… and ironically in response to a different question. THIS is side stepping.

I have no idea how involved the FBI is, but Tina stole the hard drive image and released it into unauthorized hands. So there are at least two motivations here:

  • Evidence for the charges against her
  • Recovering the image to restore/preserve the security of the election system

Point 2 is related to the insecurity of these systems… providing unauthorized persons with the system image increases their ability to devise a hack.

Now that I have graciously addressed your sidestep, can you return to my post and offer me the same charity?

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Do you have a link to this I could look at?

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Here is something : note how total arrests do not separate how many people entered the building vs merely being on the grounds.

What have they been charged with?
According to the DOJ, approximately 640 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds, which is a misdemeanor.

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This is the part of Peter’s consultant(s) report that I remain concerned about. Can you please explain in layman terms how you now see these three things explained?

  1. There is no function or feature on the EMS server that could
    be executed inadvertently or deliberately by a local election official that
    would cause this combination of events to occur, especially within the time
    frame that these events occurred. Given the complex sequence of data
    manipulations and deletions necessary to produce the digital evidence
    described in this report, this combination of events could not have been the
    result of either deliberate or inadvertent actions by those officials.
  2. Dominion’s installation of the Trusted Build update on the EMS in May of
    2021, as ordered by the Colorado Secretary of State, destroyed all data on
    the EMS hard drive, including the batch and ballot records that evidenced
    the creation of new databases and reprocessing of ballot records described
    in Findings 1 and 2 above. This destruction of all data by the trusted build
    is described in the “Mesa County, Colorado Voting Systems Forensic
    Examination and Analysis Report”.
  3. The fact that such ballot record manipulation has been shown
    demonstrates a critical security failure with the DVS EMS wherever it is
    used. The manipulation would not be identifiable to an election official
    using the voting systems, nor to an observer or judge overseeing the
    election conduct, much less to citizens with no access to the voting systems;
    without both cyber and database management system expertise, and
    unfettered access to database records and computer log files (many of
    which were destroyed by the actions of the Secretary of State) from the
    EMS server, the manipulation would be undetectable.
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Sure. I will start by emphasizing that a significant number of his other findings are directly disputed by the DA. Residual open questions do not excuse that the report promulgated significant misinformation. I have yet to see you acknowledge this or refute it. Please comment.

#5 The DA refutes this. The report said the reported conditions of the adjudication database was confirmed to be the result of the human initiate action. Confirmed by recreation with test equipment. Following the actions reported by the employees and documented in video. The DA directly calls Peter’s conclusion false here. He also notes that despite Peter’s claim to have interviewed the staff, there is no record of this and the staff reports no interview.

#6 This may be true and I’ll wait to see this play out. I have seen other information that the preservation of records occurs on central systems and not on each instance of election equipment. Which makes sense to me. The machines are used again and again and again… I would not expect that the filesystem of each machine be maintained intact in perpetuity. Either way, we do have the records and they have been examined and determined to be accurate with respect to the ballots and the election

#7 the DA refutes this. There was no manipulation and the results were correct and verifiable. I understand the discomfort with an unorthodox procedure and the complexity of computer internals, but that is not fraud… that is discomfort with technology. So we can lobby to change the process to use human counters if desired. But it is false to claim this situation was manipulation of votes or fraud. It was human action by the proper designated person(s) and the software performed correctly… despite confusion of an outsider as to how the machine was designed to function. According to the DA’s report.

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Thats the difference between 2000 Mules and What law enforcement did with January 6th.

For January 6th they tied cell phone data with people based on video time stamps. The movie DIDN’T do that.

Even though they had time and location from cell phone the didn’t back it up with even having video for that location and time.

WW

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There is also the fact that law enforcement knew that crime(s) were committed. The Capital was trespassed and vandalized. Officers were scuffled with.

2000 mules does not have evidence of crime. They only have evidence of location.

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The primary difference resides is where as Jan 6th government officials / law enforcement personnel seemingly were very aggressive in their pursuit of criminal prosecution vs not so much apparently here with the various ballot drop boxes.

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Not the machines in question…

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mesa-county-orders-new-dominion-machines-after-election-clerk-accused-of-tampering/ar-AANI9FM

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That doesn’t say anything about how law enforcement identified them or determined they were trespassing.

7625

Not anymore. Tina’s actions tainted the machines and they are choosing to replace them.

But they were intended to be used again and again. And were used for elections after the 2020 Presidential election.

But at the time of the software upgrade they were intended to be used for another election.