We will all see soon enough as the mid terms are fast approaching and the results there should be very telling on whether his 2024 chances are shaping up or not…

Audit finished in Idaho.

Shocking that they came up with the same totals as they did 11 months ago.

Allan

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To clarify, should We the People once again vote Mr. Trump back into the White House it will be done knowingly and we are not crazy believing him that his assertions about the 2020 election was rigged are sadly probably true.

That’s a matter of opinion. Your belief in Trump’s lies are based on nothing but pure faith.

I don’t believe the 2022 election will have diddly to do with whether Trump** runs again in 2024.

WW

All faith in one mans opinions.

Which has no hard evidence to back it up.

Just feelings whoa oh feelings…

Allan

The audit results are in and do refute Trump’s July 16th assertions:

Granted there are other claims of fraud, but these particular claims from Trump have been refuted by the AZ audit.

Fox News and other media outlets incorrectly side with the outdated and terrible Maricopa County Election Board to report no fraud found in the Presidential Election. They spew the gross misinformation purposefully put out by the county and the Associated Press, and IGNORE the very important Arizona Senate’s hearing yesterday, which showed 168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper (unofficial ballots), 74,000 mail in ballots received that were never mailed (magically appearing ballots), 11,000 voters were added to the voter rolls AFTER the election and still voted, all the access logs to the machines were wiped, and the election server was hacked during the election. They sided with the County and not the brave Arizona Senate who is fighting for the people of Arizona. The same anchor at the desk the night Fox called Arizona for Joe Biden now wants you to believe there was no fraud. The anchor was Bret Baier. Thankfully, Arizona has strong State Senators willing to fight for the truth. Senator Wendy Rogers says “I have heard enough. It’s time to decertify this election.” Senator Kelly Townsend said the fraud was so bad “I want to see indictments.” Senator Sonny Borrelli says “I’ve seen enough evidence to challenge the validity of the certification of the Maricopa County Election results.” Arizona shows Fraud and Voting Irregularities many times more than would be needed to change the outcome of the Election.

It’s not just difficult, it’s impossible.

How would you go about determining which ballots were cast “in an unlawful manner?”

Nope, you’re nit picking about the percentage of people are registered to vote and about voter turnout. The polls that show 50% of the respondents dont trust the elections do not distinguish per either of those criteria.

What do the warnings on cigarette packages have to do with vaccination?

Polls!? I see.

Do these polls detail why they don’t trust them and if they believe that there is systemic fraud and that audits will soothe them.

I think elections perform better than polls. If 50% think that there was cheating they can vote in new leaders to fix the problem.

What did you think we were talking about? Do you know of some other way to find out what people are thinking?

And please dont say elections. There is no way to know what people were thinking when they cast their vote. Well, unless you do exit polling.

Whistleblower, David Wilhelm, in Georgia says he was ignored by the RNC who had hired him to do the work.

I just don’t think it lends much weight to whether fraud happened or whether additional audits are needed.

I don’t see significant number of ppl believing that Biden won by fraud. It is a useful political stance and creates certain benefits for R’s, but buy in is super passive and younger in cheek.

Duly noted, we’ll see have to see about that prediction too…

Wouldn’t it be more wise to wait for evidence of voter fraud before just taking Trump’s word? I mean, I know you think Trump is great and is a pillar of truth but even you have to recognize he has a tendency to…exaggerate at the very least.

To put it as plainly as I can: whomever wins in 2024 does not show that the 2020 election was rigged.

Why one might ask? Let’s start with the fact that a significant number of people who voted in the 2020 election would have died before the 2024 election. Similarly, a significant number of people who didn’t vote in 2020 (in the main because they were too young then) will have registered to vote and will vote in 2024.

It doesn’t matter what the truth is, if half the people dont trust the veracity of the elections there is a significant problem that cannot be ignored. If we are ever going to get beyond this divisiveness, we must be able to trust elections because they are the cornerstone of the society. Restore the trust, and we can move on.

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Lol yeah.

Why do you laugh? What I said was the truth, yet you didn’t buy it. Kinda made my point, actually.