2020 Election Fraud Thread (Part 2)

Jezcoe · 2021-10-01T14:48:17.492Z

Paul_Thomson:

Jezcoe:

How does one determine which ballots are invalid?

Compare them to the laws that were on the books at the time of the election that were passed by state legislatures. That’s who makes election laws, not rogue appointed officials.

We are talking of secret ballots. There are no names attached to them.

How can it be determined which of the 20% are invalid?

westaussie · 2021-10-01T14:50:52.886Z

Apparently vaccinated? He should have read the health messages on his plain packet cigarette packaging.

westaussie · 2021-10-01T14:52:32.290Z

How does that speak to the question posed as to the specifics of who received the votes.

Paul_Thomson · 2021-10-01T14:52:37.316Z

Jezcoe:

We are talking of secret ballots. There are no names attached to them.

How can it be determined which of the 20% are invalid?

I didn’t mention “names”.

Jezcoe · 2021-10-01T14:53:49.609Z

Paul_Thomson:

Jezcoe:

We are talking of secret ballots. There are no names attached to them.

How can it be determined which of the 20% are invalid?

I didn’t mention “names”.

So then how does one determine invalid ballots?

westaussie · 2021-10-01T14:56:13.593Z

I can claim that all the “invalid” votes were cast for the Republican candidate. Apparently, it is not a requirement to have any basis for making claims; making the claim per se is sufficient.

Paul_Thomson · 2021-10-01T14:59:22.797Z

westaussie:

How does that speak to the question posed as to the specifics of who received the votes.

The ballots indicate who the voter voted for. It does not seem difficult to ascertain who received a ballots vote. Each ballot must be cast and submitted in a lawful manner. It does not seem difficult to allocate the ballots cast in an unlawful manner to the candidates selected in those ballots and to adjust the total counts accordingly.

Snowfinch · 2021-10-01T15:03:56.204Z

Paul_Thomson:

Easy. Audit the ballots and tabulate how many were technically invalid and the reasons, and how many were for Republicans and how many were for Democrats in each “reason”. Then eliminate the invalid ballots and certify the subsequent results, and clarify laws to minimise any future misbehaviour.

This is better than the Dem idea of “Let’s all agree to pretend everything went perfectly.”

This was attempted in AZ and did not resolve the problem. Once enough ppl think the result is invalid it is far from easy to satisfy them.

Jezcoe · 2021-10-01T15:04:37.849Z

Paul_Thomson:

westaussie:

How does that speak to the question posed as to the specifics of who received the votes.

The ballots indicate who the voter voted for. It does not seem difficult to ascertain who received a ballots vote. Each ballot must be cast and submitted in a lawful manner. It does not seem difficult to allocate the ballots cast in an unlawful manner to the candidates selected in those ballots and to adjust the total counts accordingly.

How does one determine which ballots are lawful and which are unlawful?

NickN · 2021-10-01T15:05:42.790Z

westaussie:

Apparently vaccinated? He should have read the health messages on his plain packet cigarette packaging.

And also apparent this poor man was not even asked by law enforcement if he was vaccinated or not as they threw him to the ground.

P.S.Meanwhile keep those borders in Eastern Australia open much like Biden does here on Southern Border for more plaque to roll in. Meanwhile in Western Australian they essentially closed the borders and now go to sold out stadiums to watch sporting events all the while.

westaussie · 2021-10-01T15:13:29.773Z

In the interest of not diverting too far in this election fraud thread could that post be moved to the thread discussing the situation in Australia?

Snowfinch · 2021-10-01T15:15:56.003Z

Paul_Thomson:

This is better than the Dem idea of “Let’s all agree to pretend everything went perfectly.”

This is not a fair characterization. A large contingent of R’s also think the election results are accurate.

In fact the biggest disputes (AZ, GA, PA) are pitting R against R as far as certification and level of auditing.

This is a sub-partisan division, with only a faction of one party believing that systemic fraud has occurred.

NickN · 2021-10-01T15:20:28.008Z

Jezcoe:

How does one determine which ballots are lawful and which are unlawful?

For starters elected officials should promote that many whistleblowers being worker bee’s in the verification process during the election should not be afraid to step forward in fear of being cancelled.

WorldWatcher · 2021-10-01T15:21:48.083Z

Paul_Thomson:

So, quote someone who said, “If I lose that means it is rigged”?

Paul_Thomson:

WorldWatcher:

We have to win the election. We can’t play games. Go out and vote. Do those beautiful absentee ballots, or just make sure your vote gets counted. Make sure because the only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged,”

~~ Donald J. Trump** 08/17/2020 prior to the November elections.

WW

Why do progressives claim to want to find common ground with the one man they loathe implacably?

I was a loyal GOP voter since 1978.

Why do cultist fail to recognize that the problem is the way Trump** (a liberal democrat until he decided to grift the gullibles in the GOP) is taking the party.

Then decide to get insulting when they ask for something and then are provide both (a) a direct quote and (b) video of Trump** saying it.

WW

Oryx · 2021-10-01T15:31:23.380Z

Samm:

As I said, the distrust predates Trump.

As I said, Trump dramatically amplified the distrust for personal gain.

Samm:

But you libs can’t get beyond your hatred for the man. Sad.

I hate what Trump has done to the country and the Republican Party. He should be charged with conspiracy to commit election fraud in Georgia and probably other places. The fact that people continue to defend this walking garbage pile is, yes, sad.

NickN · 2021-10-01T15:31:40.301Z

WorldWatcher:

I was a loyal GOP voter since 1978.

Why do cultist fail to recognize that the problem is the way Trump** (a liberal democrat until he decided to grift the gullibles in the GOP) is taking the party.

Then decide to get insulting when they ask for something and then are provide both (a) a direct quote and (b) video of Trump** saying it.

Thanks for your insight. On this forum we should always remain respectful of each other. Back to this Trump quote and consider responding on how I chimed in.

WorldWatcher · 2021-10-01T15:41:05.173Z

NickN:

WorldWatcher:

"“We have to win the election. We can’t play games. Go out and vote. Do those beautiful absentee ballots, or just make sure your vote gets counted. Make sure because the only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged,”

~~ Donald J. Trump** 08/17/2020 prior to the November elections.

WW

Anyone can make a prediction…this is America…we will likely see in 2024 if this very comment is vindicated by the voters with President Trump back in the White House or not.

I don’t believe that Trump** will be back in the White House.

He didn’t win the 2016 nomination because voters voted in the GOP primaries for him. He got the nomination with a plurality of GOP citizen votes.

He didn’t win the popular vote in 2016. He won because of a 77,000 vote fluke in 3 state giving him enough EC votes.

He didn’t win the popular in 2020 and got his ass beat by a senile old gaff machine that ran a campaign from his basement.

Finally I think being President is to much work for Trump**

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IMHO, I think he will continue to grift cash from the gullibles and will attempt to cast himself as leader of the party and king maker.

WW

NickN · 2021-10-01T15:45:00.785Z

Oryx:

I hate what Trump has done to the country and the Republican Party. He should be charged with conspiracy to commit election fraud in Georgia and probably other places. The fact that people continue to defend this walking garbage pile is, yes, sad.

So in essence are you calling out We the People in November 2016 for duly electing this one man?

And now how this same man has to be effectively blocked again for being able to run for POTUS ever again.

Otherwise We the People might again being left to our own devices and just maybe be all so crazy enough to be played the fool yet again…

Jezcoe · 2021-10-01T15:48:11.921Z

NickN:

Jezcoe:

How does one determine which ballots are lawful and which are unlawful?

For starters elected officials should promote that many whistleblowers being worker bee’s in the verification process during the election should not be afraid to step forward in fear of being cancelled.

What the what now?

Oryx · 2021-10-01T15:51:41.995Z

NickN:

So in essence are you calling out We the People in November 2016 for duly electing this one man?

Yes, electing Trump was a huge mistake.

NickN:

And now how this same man has to be effectively blocked again for being able to run for POTUS ever again.

No, he committed multiple crimes after the election and should be formally charged with them, and if convicted he should go to jail. If acquitted, he could run again.

NickN:

Otherwise We the People might again being left to our own devices and just maybe be all so crazy enough to be played the fool yet again…

Huh?