200,000 jobs added, wages jump by 2.9 percent in August

biggestal99 · 2018-10-01T15:15:04.866Z

bullseyelqcs:

What cannot be stated is that he started that trend.

also correct. The ecomony started improving under Obama and his policies.
Its still improving under Trump. Is it perfect. No, Oil prices are up and with it inflation and real wages have yet to catch up.

But the economy is doing well under Trump right this second.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2018-10-01T15:16:24.867Z

koushi_shinigami:

Jan 20, 2017.

Thats your date, most economists will differ from your opinion about the economy.

Allan

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-01T15:17:52.333Z

I said as much. He should be congratulated for continuing the trend. My problem isnt with peek trying to say the economy is doing well under Trump, its with his premise that somehow Trump isnt just continuing that which was going on for years before he took office.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-10-01T15:18:01.194Z

biggestal99:

Thats your date,

Yup.

10 char is a stupid rule.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-10-01T15:19:08.202Z

Doesn’t seem to be as much of a push to increase min wage anymore.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-10-01T15:27:56.095Z

koushi_shinigami:

Doesn’t seem to be as much of a push to increase min wage anymore.

What exactly are you talking about?

biggestal99 · 2018-10-01T15:30:47.616Z

bullseyelqcs:

its with his premise that somehow Trump isnt just continuing that which was going on for years before he took office.

That premise would be off-base based upon the facts.

The fact is that obama helped the recovery on its way and Trump is just continuing the tread.

https://www.shrm.org/ResourcesAndTools/hr-topics/talent-acquisition/Pages/SHRM-BLS-Jobs-Report-December.aspx

"U.S. employers created approximately 2.1 million jobs in 2017, coming up short compared with the 2.2 million jobs added in 2016, but the latest jobs report shows that the economy continues to expand in its ninth year of recovery. "

we shall see what 2018 has in store for us. so far. so good.

Allan

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-10-01T15:54:30.589Z

I know when a new CEO takes over all the credit or blame for the company’s financial situation goes to the new CEO on their first day. Kinda like how the CEO that followed Steve Jobs at Apple got all of the credit on his first day and Jobs’ leadership was immediately forgotten.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-10-01T15:58:13.968Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

I know when a new CEO takes over all the credit or blame for the company’s financial situation goes to the new CEO on their first day

Should have happened with 'bama, but no. We got years of whining from him about the Bush economy.

peek-a-boo · 2018-10-01T15:58:42.158Z

bullseyelqcs:

Its Trumps economy now…and based on the numbers, it is a continuation of what was going on before he took office, which came courtesy of President Obama…almost a carbon copy as a matter of fact.

Lets consider a different time point…the economy under Bill Clinton was going along extremely well. Through no fault of his own, GWB had 9/11 occur and we went to war. The economy took a complete ■■■■. Its pretty obvious to anyone being objective that GWB was NOT a continuation of the economy which proceeded him. This would be the antithesis of what we are talking about. President Obama inhereted a mess when he took office, and by the end, even if it wasnt roaring along, the economy was better in every metric than when he started. That trend has continued under President Trump. He is to be congratulated for continuing that trend. What cannot be stated is that he started that trend.

Oh, and for good measure, some people need to decide if the numbers we are seeing are great or anemic, because Ive seen then called both depending on who was sitting in the Oval Office. Donald Trump is running numbers currently that are being touted as great things and the sign of a roaring economy now, but when those ALMOST IDENTICAL numbers were happening under the last administration, they were called pathetic and weak.

All Im asking for is a little consistency.

You really like that Kool-Aid. In any case this has already been beat to death in this thread. You are welcome to go back and review the responses.

I’m moving on.

CoachMcGuirk · 2018-10-01T16:04:59.827Z

Munimula1:

95 straight months of job growth. 21 months of Trump. Do the math.

Here is something we should all celebrate: If this Friday’s BLS report indicates that the US economy added jobs in September (and I suspect that it will), we will have achieved EIGHT YEARS in which we added jobs each and every month without fail. The current streak began in October 2010. This is by far the longest streak of US jobs creation in recorded history. I forget exactly where the second longest streak ended, but it was somewhere around 44 or 46 months, IIRC.

EIGHT YEARS!
This is good news!
Way to go neighbors. Thanks for your effort! Let’s all high five each other on Friday.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-10-01T16:30:46.822Z

koushi_shinigami:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

I know when a new CEO takes over all the credit or blame for the company’s financial situation goes to the new CEO on their first day

Should have happened with 'bama, but no. We got years of whining from him about the Bush economy.

CaughtInTheMiddle:

… Kinda like how the CEO that followed Steve Jobs at Apple got all of the credit on his first day and Jobs’ leadership was immediately forgotten.

yeah, that’s how it works.

biggestal99 · 2018-10-01T17:17:41.150Z

koushi_shinigami:

Doesn’t seem to be as much of a push to increase min wage anymore

Maybe where you live, in NJ/NY metro area still working on raising the minimum.

nytimes.com – 27 Sep 18

Top Minimum Wage in U.S., $19, Approved for New York’s Airport Workers...

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey approved a series of annual increases that will lift the minimum wage for airport workers to $19 an hour.

19 bucks an hour. not bad.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2018-10-01T17:22:48.887Z

biggestal99:

19 bucks an hour. not bad.

and here is the status of Jersey’s law.

nj – 20 Sep 18

Will N.J. get $15 minimum wage plan by end of year? Not likely, top Democrat...

Phil Murphy really wants a $15 minimum wage bill passed this year.

maybe not this year, prolly next.

Just working out the exemptions.

Allan

koushi_shinigami · 2018-10-01T17:23:09.734Z

biggestal99:

Maybe where you live, in NJ/NY metro area still working on raising the minimum.

nytimes.com

Top Minimum Wage in U.S., $19, Approved for New York’s Airport Workers

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey approved a series of annual increases that will lift the minimum wage for airport workers to $19 an hour.

19 bucks an hour. not bad.

Allan

That’s a misstatement. Has nothing to do with minimum wage.

biggestal99:

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey approved a series of annual increases that will lift the minimum wage for airport workers to $19 an hour.

That is STARTING SALARY or WAGE. Not min wage. Interesting how the journalist misstated that.

reflechissez · 2018-10-01T19:51:22.066Z

peek-a-boo:

bullseyelqcs:

Its Trumps economy now…and based on the numbers, it is a continuation of what was going on before he took office, which came courtesy of President Obama…almost a carbon copy as a matter of fact.

Lets consider a different time point…the economy under Bill Clinton was going along extremely well. Through no fault of his own, GWB had 9/11 occur and we went to war. The economy took a complete ■■■■. Its pretty obvious to anyone being objective that GWB was NOT a continuation of the economy which proceeded him. This would be the antithesis of what we are talking about. President Obama inhereted a mess when he took office, and by the end, even if it wasnt roaring along, the economy was better in every metric than when he started. That trend has continued under President Trump. He is to be congratulated for continuing that trend. What cannot be stated is that he started that trend.

Oh, and for good measure, some people need to decide if the numbers we are seeing are great or anemic, because Ive seen then called both depending on who was sitting in the Oval Office. Donald Trump is running numbers currently that are being touted as great things and the sign of a roaring economy now, but when those ALMOST IDENTICAL numbers were happening under the last administration, they were called pathetic and weak.

All Im asking for is a little consistency.

You really like that Kool-Aid. In any case this has already been beat to death in this thread. You are welcome to go back and review the responses.

I’m moving on.

Wait…aren’t you the “don’t stop,” “frothing at the mouth” guy?

FreeAndClear · 2018-10-02T02:46:59.512Z

There is a reason for that. I wonder what it could be.

Oh yeah many of the states that were clamoring about minimum wage passed laws that progressively increase the wage annually until it reaches certain amounts.

koushi_shinigami · 2018-10-02T10:08:27.730Z

Could be. Or could also be that the jobs being created now are not the min wage variety of jobs

FreeAndClear · 2018-10-02T10:50:59.846Z

You are assuming while these laws are actually now on the books.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2018-10-02T11:00:38.154Z

koushi_shinigami:

Could be. Or could also be that the jobs being created now are not the min wage variety of jobs

It’s funny because you have absolutely no data to back that up. If it was so significant we would see yuuugggeeee average wage increases. But we all know you’re just making that up based on your feelings