1st Amendment and Schools - Punishment for Off Campus Social Media

[RTchoke]

@PurpnGold

@conan

Except for one main thing…they aren’t kids parents

I know… they just have a lot of the same responsibilities

They shouldn’t.

[WuWei]

@conan

No they don’t.

I would say there is a bit of overlappin’ but not much.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

You seem to be assuming the teacher makes the determination as to whether or not abuse has occurred?

Yes, they make a determination based on predetermined indicators.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

the teacher THOUGHT the child was endangered

No she didn’t.

[PurpnGold]

@conan

No they don’t

Food
Shelter
Discipline

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

You seem to be assuming the teacher makes the determination as to whether or not abuse has occurred?

Yes, they make a determination based on predetermined indicators.

Not whether or not abuse has occurred, no they do not.

[WildRose]

Link to the thread please.

What evidence of child endangerment did she see?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@conan

No they don’t

Food
Shelter
Discipline

Not discipline. Simply behavior required for admission.

[RTchoke]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Harm. There was no harm in the zoom case. In your hypothetical, there is harm. Which means it is ex post facto, not prior restraint. When harm has been done, responsibilities change. We punish, investigate, etc., after harm has been done. Not because we feel it may be done in the future. Law is reactive, not proactive.

Common law principles. Right @TheDoctorIsIn?

Mandatory reporting include child endangerment. For example if the kids parents are running a drug ring in the house. No physical abuse but endangerment.

In the zoom case… the teacher THOUGHT the child was endangered. Student was off campus but “in-school”.

Why was she told to mind her business?

Having a gun in the house does not mean a child is endangered. The teacher was letting her personal beliefs interfere. Period.

[PurpnGold]

@RTchoke

Having a gun in the house does not mean a child is endangered. The teacher was letting her personal beliefs interfere. Period.

That’s your opinion.

She used her judgement based on her mandatory reporting requirements

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

Not discipline. Simply behavior required for admission.

Yes, they discipline for conduct that happens on campus

[RTchoke]

@PurpnGold

@RTchoke

Having a gun in the house does not mean a child is endangered. The teacher was letting her personal beliefs interfere. Period.

That’s your opinion.

She used her judgement based on her mandatory reporting requirements

Where is it mandatory to report that a gun is in a student’s home and ONLY that scenario?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@RTchoke

Having a gun in the house does not mean a child is endangered. The teacher was letting her personal beliefs interfere. Period.

That’s your opinion.

She used her judgement based on her mandatory reporting requirements

She was not mandated to report the presence of a firearm in a home.

Get off the Silly Road.

[WildRose]

No, that’s the law.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Not discipline. Simply behavior required for admission.

Yes, they discipline for conduct that happens on campus

No, they don’t. They suspend and expel. No admission until the behavior is corrected.

[WildRose]

@PurpnGold

She used her judgement based on her mandatory reporting requirements

What “mandatory reporting requirements” require teachers to report child abuse because of a firearm being seen in the home?

[PurpnGold]

@RTchoke

Where is it mandatory to report that a gun is in a student’s home and ONLY that scenario?

Child endangerment

[RTchoke]

@PurpnGold

@RTchoke

Where is it mandatory to report that a gun is in a student’s home and ONLY that scenario?

Child endangerment

No, try again.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

No, they don’t. They suspend and expel. No admission until the behavior is corrected.

You just described discipline. It’s punitive

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

No, they don’t. They suspend and expel. No admission until the behavior is corrected.

You just described discipline. It’s punitive

No, it is not. You think the school is “punishing” a kid by making him not go to school?