160,000 Left Behind in Afghanistan?

I don’t know. Trump trust them enough to negotiate the control of the country with then.

This is true taliban 2.0

Time is a flat circle.

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What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

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Truly disgusting is what it is.

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Who is defending the Taliban?

I am laughing out loud right now.

I got words for what this post right here is that i’ll share now:

The ol neocon shtick is back!

If we hear some WMD theories soon too my card hits bingo

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Regarding the equipment that the Afghan army abandoned:

Do you think that pretending it has turned the Taliban into some very dangerous fighting force with super advanced technology would be a reasonable stand-in for WMD or on your bingo card?

Was there ever any doubt?

What if we gave the weapons to the Afghan Army knowing all along that when we left the weapons would end up in the hands of the Taliban and we could use that as an excuse later to go back? I know my “what if” is a straight up conspiracy but I keep hearing from anyone that was over there that it was obvious this would happen

I don’t think it’s that most people including most republicans wanted out of Afghanistan. It’s the way it was executed with full shame being ran out by goat herders, leaving people behind, and now a terrorist organization outfitted with billions of dollars of tax payer weaponry is the primary problem I see with it.

And it’s not just us conservatives pointing this out but pretty much the rest of the world including much of the EU who have not had to many good things to say about the rout.

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The EU is pissed because they realize that the US is no longer going to do the heavy lifting and they’re going to have to finance their own military efforts. They aren’t just mad at Biden. Trump’s initial decision to leave is a part of their grievance.

Did the amount of state of the art weaponry that we have give to the Taliban at no charge exceed your wildest imagination?

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My push back on that is, if true, why in the world did we carry on across 18 years, and 4 administrations both democratic and republican?

Isn’t that a tacit admission that we weren’t nation building, and in fact it was an occupation all along, and for the foreseeable future?

If so, Biden’s bungled withdrawal is just the last in a long series of tragic errors, and bungling aside, Biden should be praised for finally putting a stop to it.

Should we of disarmed the Afghan Army before starting the withdrawal?

No. It was executed perfectly. Biden has made no mistakes with this or anything else.
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I’m not trying to convince you that Biden is a mess. Your blinders are too tight. So why bother?

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That’s not what I asked and I have said several times that Biden ■■■■■■ up big time so stop trying to make it appear as if I support the way he completed the withdrawal. But he did not tell the Afghan Army to surrender without a fight and give their weapons to the Taliban.

Should we of disarmed the Afghan Army before starting the withdrawal?

Here’s what I would have done.

When the Taliban was in the open, on the move to Kabul, I would have wiped them off the face of the Earth.

Next I would have not surrendered Kandahar airbase as he did. I would have kept air power in Afghanistan until it was no longer needed.

I would have evacuated ALL civilians. I would not have retreated and given up any ground before the evacuation was complete. I would not have let the Taliban set up check points. That would be a non starter.

Next I would have removed all of OUR military gear. How the hell do we not fly 4 big C-130 transports out of the country?

Any military equipment captured by the Taliban would have been destroyed by airstrikes or artillery.

Then, I would evacuate the troops.

Good plan?

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That was monumentally stupid and in the future the idea of taking out air support first will probably be referred to as the Biden Blunder or something similar. But based on the first 11 months of Trump’s 14 month withdrawel window and how he completed the Syria withdrawal not a lot else would of different.

Biden ■■■■■■ up big time but you are ignoring 20 years of previous ■■■■■■■ before him. Trump negotiated our withdrawal with the Taliban instead of coordinating it with the Afghan Government. Je did not dictate terms but took what he could get. To pretend it would of gone smoothly had Biden not been elected is using those blinders you were talking about.