160,000 Left Behind in Afghanistan?

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T11:25:30.481Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Nobody thought the ANA would fight to keep the airport open as we flew away.

That was literally their plan.

They were wrong.

Was it Trump’s “plan”?

I have doubts that he really had much of a plan other than “get out”

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:25:49.421Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

he visa thing is nonsense.

One of the reasons that there were State department people there so long was to process Visas.

You’re joking.

No… I am not.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:26:13.566Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Nobody thought the ANA would fight to keep the airport open as we flew away.

That was literally their plan.

They were wrong.

Was it Trump’s “plan”?

I have doubts that he really had much of a plan other than “get out”

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T11:26:18.684Z

WuWei:

If Jbiden Inc wasn’t happy with the plan, they had the power to change it (which they did) or scrap it and do something entirely different.

That I agree with.

That was a large part of their failure.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:26:31.700Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The reticence to acknowledge Trump’s part in this failure is just plain weird.

The operation turned into a debacle on Jbiden’s last few rings, not Trump’s first few.

Ball got rolling.

Which direction was it rolling?

Toward Bagram.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:27:44.740Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

If Jbiden Inc wasn’t happy with the plan, they had the power to change it (which they did) or scrap it and do something entirely different.

That I agree with.

That was a large part of their failure.

Amazing.

5elr06

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T11:35:43.925Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

If Jbiden Inc wasn’t happy with the plan, they had the power to change it (which they did) or scrap it and do something entirely different.

That I agree with.

That was a large part of their failure.

Amazing.

What is amazing?

Imagine if in an alternate reality, a President Clinton negotiated the release of thousands of Taliban prisoners over the objections of the Afghan government and then a year an a half later one of those prisoners has taken control of the country.

Let us say that that happened in an alternate reality.

How bonkers would that be?

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:47:31.166Z

Jezcoe:

Imagine if in an alternate reality, a President Clinton negotiated the release of thousands of Taliban prisoners over the objections of the Afghan government and then a year an a half later one of those prisoners has taken control of the country.

Political hay, not militarily important. “A guy” didn’t take the country. The Taliban did.

You are grasping at pieces of straw now.

Have a nice day. Focus and fight the TDS.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T11:50:03.735Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

Imagine if in an alternate reality, a President Clinton negotiated the release of thousands of Taliban prisoners over the objections of the Afghan government and then a year an a half later one of those prisoners has taken control of the country.

Political hay, not militarily important. “A guy” didn’t take the country. The Taliban did.

You are grasping at pieces of straw now.

Have a nice day. Focus and fight the TDS.

You know full well what the reaction would be to that particular scenario.

That is what is funny about this coyness of pretending that Jan 20 2021 was the beginning of history.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T11:51:33.913Z

Jezcoe:

You know full well what the reaction would be to that particular scenario.

That is what is funny about this coyness of pretending that Jan 20 2021 was the beginning of history.

Back to the TDS motte. You might as well stay in there, it’s obvious you can’t hold your own out here in the bailey with me.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T11:57:31.836Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You know full well what the reaction would be to that particular scenario.

That is what is funny about this coyness of pretending that Jan 20 2021 was the beginning of history.

Back to the TDS motte. You might as well stay in there, it’s obvious you can’t hold your own out here in the bailey with me.

This whole reaction to comparing the realities political camps with rhetorical fantasies that serve to insulate one side while exposing the other is getting really boring.

We all know what the reaction would be if the exact same events unfolded under different leadership.

The Trump administration’s giving away of the store to the Taliban without the input of Afghan government is part of this puzzle. We all know this.

This would be like arguing the origins of the American Civil war and taking a position that it was all Lincoln’s fault since he was the one in office when it started while ignoring the decades of lead up and to it.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T13:02:52.441Z

Jezcoe:

We all know what the reaction would be if the exact same events unfolded under different leadership.

WuWei:

Political hay, not militarily important.

No mottes.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T13:03:40.324Z

Jezcoe:

The Trump administration’s giving away of the store to the Taliban without the input of Afghan government is part of this puzzle. We all know this.

Irrelevant.

Motte.

WuWei · 2021-08-23T13:05:57.949Z

Jezcoe:

We all know what the reaction would be if the exact same events unfolded under different leadership.

Counterfactual, therefore irrelevant.

altair1013 · 2021-08-23T13:08:59.722Z

Camp:

Biden doesn’t have the energy to even yell at an insubordinate.

He would probably forget their name anyway. Nobody is afraid of, or respects Biden. He’s dim wit. The Cowardly Biden.

Bosun · 2021-08-23T13:17:41.645Z

I believe the SF in Mr SneakySFDude’s name does not stand for San Francisco. He is very good when it comes to military matters.

If the Woke Biden folks had listened to real military advisors we would not be in this mess. General MlleyWilly may have given Biden’s woke handlers some bum ■■■■ advice. Or Biden and his handlers are the dumbest bunch since Carter. I suspect Biden was absent from any decision making. He is the teleprompter reader and staged question taker.

Then he retires to his basement.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-23T13:18:00.640Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The Trump administration’s giving away of the store to the Taliban without the input of Afghan government is part of this puzzle. We all know this.

Irrelevant.

Motte.

This is where we talk in code words now.

That is the boring part.

Bosun · 2021-08-23T13:20:02.535Z

Not boring to me. Look at something other than your talking point, Mr. Jezcoe

WuWei · 2021-08-23T13:41:12.742Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

The Trump administration’s giving away of the store to the Taliban without the input of Afghan government is part of this puzzle. We all know this.

Irrelevant.

Motte.

This is where we talk in code words now.

That is the boring part.

It’s not code. It’s the name for your trick. Not having it.

Focus!

WuWei · 2021-08-23T13:42:25.396Z

Always go back to The Mission.

What is The Mission of this operation?