160,000 Left Behind in Afghanistan?

Jezcoe · 2021-08-22T21:48:58.051Z

Bosun:

I thought you were blaming trump earlier, or I may have been mistaken. Biden says it is Trump’s fault.

It is dumb of Biden to place the blame on Trump.

Trump didn’t help… heck he put in motion this ■■■■ up. Biden didn’t do anything to correct the course.

He ■■■■■■ it up.

I won’t pretend that a different administration would have handled it much better.

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:49:26.957Z

What is stupid; One person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter??? That has played out or played naïve people for centuries…

gooddad409 · 2021-08-22T21:49:31.164Z

Rurudyne:

He does what those controlling him want, and the DNC is full of malevolent types.

As is the fake news media.

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:50:16.630Z

That is a true statement. We are all being played…

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:53:27.621Z

So it is Trump’s fault. Thank you for that revelation as Jezcoe sees it; " heck he (Trump) put in motion this ■■■■ up." I would tend to say that Trump has the intelligence to cancel any limited agreements he tried to diplomatically do. He told the Taliban if they crossed the line he would squash them.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T21:54:26.383Z

Infiltration - Bush the Younger
Grade Brilliant

Prosecution - Bush, Obama, Trump
Grade - up and down. AQ up. Taliban mixed to up. Soldiers - up.
Overall - B

Nation Building - Cost of infiltration - Bush, Obama, Trump, NATO.
Grade F - not culturally prepared for "“mocracy”. Never will be. Too many savages willing to take hegemony at the barrel of a gun. Trump recognized it. Admitted it. The rest of them knew it.

Exfiltration - Trump first. So far so good. Jbiden took over execution. Blew it all up. Why? Political optics. He let Blinken and his Woke Generals over rule military operations. State was planning on keeping the embassy open. That’s why they closed Bagram before Kabul airport.

Exfiltration is fairly straightforward (not easy).

Conduct an offensive (if needed) to create time/space. Kick them in the nuts so they slow down.
Civilians out. No NEO under fire. 1 and 2 can be done simultaneously.
Military equipment out or destroyed.
Troops out, bombing behind them if need be. Bagram should have been the last point of departure. Including allies. Right now every allied country is fighting for itself.

Ever contracting concentric rings until last wheels up.

If Dumbass wasn’t ready, he should have held off until fighting season was over.

If they pressure too much while you’re working, you kick them in the nuts again.

They were so worried about the “optics” they forgot to conduct the freakin’ operation.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T21:55:03.727Z

Jezcoe:

Trump didn’t help… heck he put in motion this ■■■■ up.

Can’t help it, can you?

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:55:28.439Z

You summed that up perfectly. Thank you, @WuWei

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:56:08.444Z

Ditto

Bosun · 2021-08-22T21:59:19.484Z

Biden tickled the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and any other terrorists with a feather… Sleepy Joe was asleep in the basement for far too long. How is that basement candidacy workin out for all y’all liberals and progressive liberals.

Joe should have asked, “What would the Squad do?” Oh he did and executed the Squad plan perfectly.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T22:02:00.783Z

Sun Tzu and Clausewitz had some interesting thoughts on bureaucrats interfering in military operations once they began.

Sun Tzu advocated beheading them for it if I remember correctly.

Bosun · 2021-08-22T22:03:09.185Z

Your memory is 100% correct about 99.9% of the time… The other 0.1% is probably right on.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T22:04:52.268Z

Jezcoe:

You haven’t been listening to what I have been saying then.

Read every word.

There you go: a real one.

160,000 Left Behind in Afghanistan? Politics

Infiltration - Bush the Younger Grade Brilliant Prosecution - Bush, Obama, Trump Grade - up and down. AQ up. Taliban mixed to up. Soldiers - up. Overall - B Nation Building - Cost of infiltration - Bush, Obama, Trump, NATO. Grade F - not culturally prepared for "“mocracy”. Never will be. Too many savages willing to take hegemony at the barrel of a gun. Trump recognized it. Admitted it. The rest of them knew it. Exfiltration - Trump first. So far so good. Jbiden took over executio…

Come get you some…

Bosun · 2021-08-22T22:07:57.634Z

Biden was asleep when this principle was gone over during intel briefings: The operational effectiveness of our deployed forces cannot be, and never has been, achieved without being enabled by our joint service partners. The support Air Force, Army, Marine and Navy engineers, technicians, intelligence analysts, and the numerous other professions that contribute to special operators and their missions.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T22:12:11.833Z

Sure got quiet in here all of a sudden.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-22T22:19:17.906Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

Trump didn’t help… heck he put in motion this ■■■■ up.

Can’t help it, can you?

Help what? Understand reality?

WuWei · 2021-08-22T22:22:02.778Z

You wanted a real “debate”. Let’s dance.

Jezcoe · 2021-08-22T22:22:18.487Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

You haven’t been listening to what I have been saying then.

Read every word.

There you go: a real one.

160,000 Left Behind in Afghanistan? - #324 by WuWei

Come get you some…

It is leaving out the deals that Pompeo made with the Taliban that cut out the Afghan government and the efforts of Stephen Miller to slow roll the visa process for the Afghanis who helped the US’s efforts and wants to leave.

Saying that “Trump got the ball rolling” leaves out a ton of information of which direction that ball was being pushed.

Camp · 2021-08-22T22:23:13.258Z

Biden keeps lying about the criticism being over leaving instead of his poor administration task execution.

It is his character to lie.

WuWei · 2021-08-22T22:26:02.604Z

Jezcoe:

It is leaving out the deals that Pompeo made with the Taliban that cut out the Afghan government and the efforts of Stephen Miller to slow roll the visa process for the Afghanis who helped the US’s efforts and wants to leave.

Irrelevant, but no I didn’t. See allies. The Afghan government was not a player in this operation. We were abandoning them. Why would we expect them to cover our abandonment?

Jbiden could have stopped the process for visas or any other reason at any time. He could have waived the visas.