$12 billion in welfare for farmers on the way

Jezcoe · 2018-07-30T18:56:45.086Z

Cratic3947:

It’s not a permanent program… DEms have no ideas on how to deal with trade.

Well… is the idea to start a trade war with nearly the entire world in order to get a better trade deal with China and so far the result is to borrow $12 Billion… a good portion of that from China… a good way to deal with it?

adroit · 2018-07-30T19:32:02.159Z

SamSalmon:

A drop in the bucket compared to funding the corrupt bankers with TARP funds. At least the farmers will maintain instead of losing everything. The tariffs will bring back businesses from overseas and slowly rebuild the infrastructure of America.

Psst, we made a profit on TARP [1].

Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP) | U.S. Department of the Treasury

goodbyte · 2018-07-30T19:33:12.309Z

adroit:

Psst , we made a profit on TARP

Yup, I actually just looked that up myself from another thread. Okay, in that case I’m alright with bailing out farmers under the same conditions: pay the money back, with interest.

WildRose · 2018-07-30T20:51:48.444Z

Cratic3947:

It’s not a permanent program… DEms have no ideas on how to deal with trade.

They seem to be running with the assumption that the only way to go is up.

Neither the EU nor China wants the net result to be reduced access to US markets. Trump unlike the dem’s and even some republicans seems to understand that.

His only goal is to use the threat of tariffs to get the others to reduce or eliminate their own along with the other barriers that exist.

SamSalmon · 2018-07-30T20:52:28.164Z

adroit:

Psst , we made a profit on TARP [1].

A prophet for the government at the expense of millions on the street. The government put a conservator (FHFA) over FNMA and siphoned billions for years even though FNMA was never insolvent. Even for those who owned stock in FNMA couldn’t collect any dividends while FNMA was showing a huge profit. The FNMA conservatorship was a huge scam used to fund many hidden illegal operations. Your article doesn’t even begin to explain the true nature for TARP.

WildRose · 2018-07-30T20:52:43.063Z

You’re getting paid back every time you put food in your mouth.

SamSalmon · 2018-07-30T20:53:42.328Z

Misspelled profit* not prophet

Drs · 2018-07-30T21:07:03.837Z

27 billion more needed.
Higher prices for consumers. Bailouts for businesses.

WSJ

Soda, Motorcycle Prices Rise as Tariffs Hit Home for Consumers

Consumers are paying more for products from recreational vehicles to soda as tariffs on metals and parts put pressure on U.S. manufacturers.

I am some Trumpy will be along to explain how these are good things.

goodbyte · 2018-07-30T21:33:40.658Z

WildRose:

You’re getting paid back every time you put food in your mouth.

I’m convinced. A great argument for subsidizing drugs as well.

Munimula1 · 2018-07-30T21:35:24.546Z

You should have lobbied Trump to lay off the farm tariff.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-08-05T14:18:18.401Z

SamSalmon:

A prophet for the government at the expense of millions on the street.

you’re in a thread where millions on the street have bailed out farmers (after Trump started trade wars) by saying that another program used millions on the street to bail out entities.

dude. try harder.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-08-05T14:18:59.331Z

goodbyte:

WildRose:

You’re getting paid back every time you put food in your mouth.

I’m convinced. A great argument for subsidizing drugs as well.

uh oh. can of worms opened.

SamSalmon · 2018-08-05T14:52:19.849Z

You’re obviously ignorant on the real story behind TARP. It took me hundreds of hours of research to overcome the banking system to keep the home I built. Believe what you want.

Drs · 2018-08-05T15:12:25.590Z

SamSalmon:

You’re obviously ignorant on the real story behind TARP. It took me hundreds of hours of research to overcome the banking system to keep the home I built. Believe what you want.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH/giphy.gif?cid=790b761158abdef9a714ad01759e0baacb10cfb035bca37e&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g(image larger than 4 MB)

I think Obama sums it up.

SamSalmon · 2018-08-05T15:18:26.155Z

Nailed it.

Drs · 2018-08-05T15:19:50.444Z

SamSalmon:

Nailed it.

Exactly what were you trying to say to disprove what Caught in the Middle said?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-08-05T18:48:23.035Z

SamSalmon:

You’re obviously ignorant on the real story behind TARP. It took me hundreds of hours of research to overcome the banking system to keep the home I built. Believe what you want.

again, you’re in a thread discussing how we’re all bailing about farmers (due to Trump’s trade wars) by complaining about others being bailed out.

seriously. get better at debating.

SamSalmon · 2018-08-05T18:54:13.915Z

Don’t start something you can’t finish. The issues are relevant.

If you want to avoid the debate at least be honest, instead of throwing out unwarranted corrections.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-08-05T19:22:46.811Z

SamSalmon:

Don’t start something you can’t finish. The issues are relevant.

If you want to avoid the debate at least be honest, instead of throwing out unwarranted corrections.

oh, i can finish anything that you start. and you certainly started the…

“At least the farmers will maintain instead of losing everything. The tariffs will bring back businesses from overseas and slowly rebuild the infrastructure of America.”

crap in a thread about us all bailing out farmers (due to Trump’s trade wars) while you complain about other industries being bailed out. i do like how you differentiated the “amount” of the bail outs though. as if a small(er) bailout makes it not a bailout or something.

so let’s go. did all of us bail out the farmers or not?

SamSalmon · 2018-08-05T19:28:54.029Z

Bailing out the farmers for their inability to sell products while we straighten out our trade deficit is a valid reason. Bailing out the banking system should have never happened, as someone suggested the one validated the other.